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From Football To Business with Brandon Gilmore
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You can feel it when someone has real structure. Brandon Gilmore comes through with a Houston-bred mix of discipline, faith, and business sense, and we go deep on how that mindset gets built long before the internet ever sees you. We talk family dynamics, why education mattered in his house, and how football can shape the kind of leadership that holds up when your back is against the wall.
We also get honest about the youth football and high school football world right now: transfers, holdbacks, recruiting rankings, NIL pressure, and the burnout that hits kids when the game turns into a year-round grind. Brandon breaks down what still matters most for athlete development: being coachable, taking feedback, training with intention, and remembering that you still have to be the talent no matter what jersey you put on.
Then we pivot to branding and networking in the music industry, including Brandon’s viral airport conversation with music manager Rainwater and what that moment teaches about presentation, respect, and taking smart risks. We talk the illusion of social media influence, why real relationships beat follower counts, and the power of being the behind-the-scenes connector who makes the whole team flow.
If you care about leadership, youth sports development, personal branding, or music business strategy, this one is packed with game. Subscribe, share this with a coach or creator who needs it, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway: what’s one decision you would make differently after hearing this?
Cold Open And Guest Intro
SPEAKER_00I was made for this movie. The ladies love me. All around the world. Nope.
SPEAKER_06Elevator talks in this thing. You got your boy stand out in the building. You know how I'm feeling. Okay, we got a special guest. We always got a special guest because the only special guest comes on this podcast. Okay. We got my boy Brandon Gilmore. Now, Brandon Gilmore ain't no punk now. Okay. Like, you know what I'm saying? He looked like a young spectacular from Pretty Ricky. But hey, this guy is a businessman. He's a well-educated man that's led teams. He he has a diverse platform and portfolio and everything that he does from coaching all the way to business. Brandon, tell the guests and everybody who you are.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, we appreciate that intro, man. That was, you know, that was very lovely. I appreciate that. Um, well, yeah, I'm Brandon from Houston, Texas, born and raised all the way. Like he said, college graduate, uh man of very multifaceted. I wear many hats uh from coaching to business, uh music manager, all you know, just all type of things. Just, you know, very well-rounded, very well versed. Child of God, most importantly.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. All right. I'm glad that you put that in. For sure, for sure. You know, yeah, God is the greatest. Oh, yeah. Um so I met you uh, I guess in a defining moment of your life. Right. Because you were you're still finishing up school. I'm pretty sure you got more because when I learned once you start school, you never really finish. You know what I'm saying? Once you get the master's, you go to the doctor. Is it every time you go to the doctor's office, you see like 30, 40 degrees and plats and certificates on the wall and stuff. And I I
Education Mindset And Family Dynamics
SPEAKER_06learned that with people that once they get past that master's, they just keep on going.
SPEAKER_03Is that is that something that no, so I'm done after my master's. Um, so truthfully, I come from a family full of like uh educators. Education is very important in my household. So you know how some families they compete in athletics. My family is education. So my family, uh, my mom has a PhD, my sister's in lieu of getting her PhD, my dad has his uh master's and things like that. So it was only natural that I had to jump in there to compete. But I've done after my master's, you know, school is cool, but uh, you know, I know my limits.
SPEAKER_06I knew my limits too. So you almost like the Nunu of Houston. You know, remember from ATL, Nunu? Ah man, no. The male version.
SPEAKER_02He got a two-parent new hole.
SPEAKER_03Nah, so nah. Um, I don't come from a two-parent household. Well, okay. My family dynamic is unique. So um my parents split when I was young. However, my stepdad stepped up, so he's been there like a huge part of my life. So I do, but I don't come from a two-parent household. But despite all that, my parents they never let that guy in the way. My dad was always uh involved in my life, very active in things.
SPEAKER_06So yeah. Okay, okay. So you know, I got my son in here, and you know, he lives in a, I guess, a two-parent household. Well, would you say is kind of sometimes it's a little confusing? Um, like living in a two-parent household, because you got these rules over here, but you have these, even if they're on the same accord, right? You know, but you got this going on over here, but you know you might get away with this over here.
SPEAKER_03You know, uh, I don't think it's confusing, honestly. I think it's like uh shaped in you in like different types of ways and like different type of structure. So like my mom, she was more like very um, very more disciplined, very more structured, very more, you know, organized. My dad, he was kind of more laid back and relaxed. So I think having those balances of like different parenting styles kind of helped me uh maintain like a good balance and be level-headed, you know. But like you are right though. You do know some parents you can get away from. Like, I knew there are certain things in my mom I could play on and get a reaction out of her, and same thing with my dad, you know what I mean? So yeah.
Growing Up Houston And Texas Pride
SPEAKER_06Okay, so are you came from Houston, Texas to Vegas? Yeah. Okay, so you went to college, what college did you go to?
SPEAKER_03University of Houston, the downtown location, but shout out to all UHD locations. Okay, yeah. Okay, how was that?
SPEAKER_06Like, because Texas is such a a big place, right? For sure, it's a big little place, I say, because like Texas could really be its own country in a way, but no, we tried to succeed from the U.S. at one point, it's like California, yeah. You know, we tried to do that. That's why California and Texas don't get along, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06But you know, and then once you go to every city in Texas is different, like Dallas is different from Houston, Houston is different from San Antonio. San Antonio is different from Amarillo, Amarillo is different from El Paso, Midland, Texas is different from everything. Everybody has their own different type of country vibe. So it's like being in different parts of the South, even though you're in different cities and that one state, you know what I'm saying? How was it growing up in Texas, man? Come on, I'm from California, so I ain't gonna lie.
SPEAKER_03Texas, you know, I'm a little biased, but that's the great state, you know. Uh I always say, you know, God sure does love Texas. So that's, you know, that's always my favorite saying. Growing up in Texas was amazing. Um, particularly, like I say, I'm from the Houston area, but I've had the experience to travel and like be all over uh from San Antonio to the Dallas area to Austin area to like the small towns in East Texas, like Nacados, Tyler, things like that. Texas is very unique. Um, everyone's kind of the same. Everyone's just like real big on respect. Um, everyone gets along and stuff like that. For the most part, yeah, you're gonna have like your little skirmishes that's just natural everywhere. But Texas is very cool, very laid back, very chill. We're very prideful. Uh, some people take us as boastful, you know. I mean, that's depending on you know who you're asking, but nah, we're our own like unique place. We have our own set of rules and laws that we live by, to be honest. We're like our own world, you know.
Texas Versus California Football Culture
SPEAKER_06So let's let's let's let's get into a little bit of sports and then we're gonna segue into something else. But uh we gotta get into the sports because that's what that's how I originally met you. Oh, yeah, for sure. Let's do it. Okay, so you grew up in Texas, you know what I'm saying? Uh Houston, Texas. So, what's the best city for sports in in Texas?
SPEAKER_03Uh that's tough because you got talent everywhere. Uh, I'm always be biased and say Houston, but you can't forget the places like Allen, uh, Duncanville, DeSoto, Cedar Hill, um, even uh like Sabolo Steel, like there in the San Antonio area. Uh, you got them boys way up there in Denton, uh, Crawley. Uh I mean, Texas is just every like everything is football. It's it's literally God family football or football family, depending on who you're talking to. Um yeah, football is everything. The best talent, I don't know, man. That's that's so tough. So many people come from all over. You got the legends like Eric Dickinson coming from the smaller towns, the legends like Errol Campbell, um Errol Thomas. I mean, like, there's just so many. Thurman Thomas, just so many, just so many, so many.
SPEAKER_06Okay, okay. I mean, you know, I I can't let you talk too too much, you know, because I'm a Californian born and raised, you know, by, you know, I lived in Vegas for a long time, but um, you know, we Texas, when we looked at everything when it came down to rankings, even though like, you know, back when I played, we didn't have uh state championships in California. Right. So, you know, you five 6A, 5A, 4A, you know, and then you just had like your CIF championship, right? And your, you know, your city championship, stuff like that. But um, and then until after I graduated, that's when they started doing the state championship. And now, um now these kids they got it where they almost got like national championships. I don't think they actually, I don't know if they actually play, uh, but I know that they rank them and then in the top, I think they they do play now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06So but back when I was growing up, you know, you had to schedule that game or whatever. But um, yeah, we used to always look at Texas like, oh man. And then they in Friday Night Lights came out when I was uh in high school, then the show. And so we're looking at Carter and and uh uh uh uh you know we had people that was like we everybody knew a booby mouse. Yeah you know what I'm saying? And so like that really kind of made us really have like if you didn't have a rivalry with Texas, like just growing up, just seeing rankings and and seeing like different highlights from out there, like you after Friday Night Lights, you had that that rivalry. It feels it felt like it was if you played football at a high level, yeah, like you had that, and you know, when I was growing up, you know, the best team at the time, one of the best teams at the time in the nation was Long Beach Polly.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06And so then we had De La Salle, which was either one or two, and then the other teams that was really messing with those two teams, like at a high level, was uh Bellevue and Washington and stuff like that. So we used to always uh clown my Texas buddies and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, you from Tex.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I ain't gonna be like y'all number two to California.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna lie, though, like much respect though. I mean, y'all got some ballers in California. So like I know in my area, well in my era when I was growing up, rather, the social media boom like really took off. So like that's when like we got to see things like a little more like deep dive. So like I remember uh growing up watching like uh the modern days, the St. John Bosco's, the places. So you know, you got the Long Beach poly. So y'all definitely got some ballers out here in California um growing up, seeing people like Joe McKnight. Yeah, you know, I'm a little old, so like Dwayne Jarrett, you know, I remember all those guys and stuff like that, Lindell White, Reggie Bush out of San Diego. So I mean, much respect to California. Y'all got some ballers and stuff like that that you know came through, but you know, Texas, we always gonna be Texas, you know?
SPEAKER_06I used to tell people like this like if you want the quarterbacks, come to California. I used to tell people I used to tell people this. Like, if you want the the quarterbacks and uh yeah, like your quarterbacks, California. If you want, if you want anything on defense, Texas. If you want your running backs, I forgot, I forgot, I think it was like Florida or something like that. I can't remember at the time. This is years ago.
SPEAKER_03See, I think it just like depends because like that narrative is kind of changing now. So like I think California has, I think they probably have the more like Hall of Fame QBs like Brady, L Way, Steve Young, um, you know, those just them three names alone right there. It's just, you know, hard to top. Uh Texas, I know we have people like uh Drew Brees, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, uh Kyler Murray, uh, I believe uh Nick Foles is um I don't know if he's from Texas, but I think he like spent some time in Texas and like things like that. So it's kind of hard too.
SPEAKER_06And you luck. It's kind of hard too because uh now um most of these kids are they transfer in between schools. So you don't really get to know exactly where they're from because you know they might have started at an IMG or they might have started at a school in your city, but by the time they're a sophomore or junior, they might be at Bishop Gorman, or they might be at uh DeSoto. Right. They might be at St. Francis, uh Bosco, you know, because when I was growing up, uh Modern Day and Bosco, they were good. Well no, more more so Modern Day. Yeah, right. Modern Day was good, they was always good, but they wasn't at the level that they're at now. Okay, same thing with Bosco. Bosco was cool, but like they were very beatable, you know. Uh like most teams that we mentioned prior to, you know, like the Lombies Pottes would have ran mudholes, you know what I'm saying? Yeah uh Crenshaw Dorsey. That's that's the kind of teams that I play, you know, uh growing up in the city. And so um I think now, I think now um, you know, it's so hard to follow some of these states to truth to say who really has those are breeding those true athletes because these kids might be in one state one minute, and then next thing they're in a different state, and then by the time they get to college, yeah, by the time they get to college, just like the the holdback thing that's
Transfers NIL And Youth Sports Burnout
SPEAKER_06a business now. I've been reading and listening to a lot of things on that. And you being a coach and a and and and a leader and a um and a person that's a uh I would say a pillar to the younger athletes and even even athletes around your age, probably. Um, like how would you how would you say the landscape is now?
SPEAKER_03So I understand both sides of it. I understand like with uh the branding and NIL, I get why you want to build your brand up. So you have to put yourself in the best position to do so. But then because I've seen like the before that era, if you're the best, they're gonna come find you like no matter where you're from. So, like example, like oh, he's a uh Texas legend, uh Jonathan Gray. Uh he was from Aledo, Texas. Aledo, Texas is not like a you know a huge town, right? But they were like a powerhouse when he went there. He helped put them on the map. You know, he was like the all-time leading rusher in Texas at one point. He he might uh still be. But from there, he was able to like go to UT and he brought the spotlight to Aledo to where now they became a powerhouse and they're regularly recruited out of places like that. So what I'm saying is at the end of the day, you still have to be the talent. No matter, no matter where you go, no matter who you are, you still have to be the talent. So you still have to develop yourself. I think sometimes you have these people um, they're running from like adversity. They're like running from that, from those obstacles. And people forget sports build character, especially football. You're not gonna always be the man. You're not gonna always be, you may be that one five-star or four-star where you're from, but it's a hundred of those all over. So you can't be afraid, always trying to run away. I think uh sometimes the parents may have the right intentions, but sometimes they go about it the wrong way as well, to where they're trying to pump their children to be such a big brand and this big um self-corporation that they forget to actually like develop the child's talent and do the things that got them there. Football comes first, you know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, uh, I think we see that all the time like on the on the field. Like you might get these a lot. This is the biggest problem that I run into is you'll get these parents that think that they pay for their child to play sport, and they got these coaches coaching their child, or they put their or they they might even put their their child on the best team that might go to all these national tournaments or whatever, right? And they think that that's just enough, right? Because they pay their money to play this sport and they go through all these nationals and they do all these fundraisers and stuff like that. But in reality, in order to get to that next level, because you got all now you got all these different adversities against you, right? Um, you got the holdbacks, you got uh the way college that the the way that they recruit college, yeah, they don't even recruit the same. Like they go like this. They go, if you're not a four or five star, they go, um they go uh transfers first. That's the number one thing, the transfers, then you go your JCs, you know what I'm saying? And then they start pulling at your your your incoming freshmen or your your high school kids or whatever, your your high school recruiting or whatever the case may be. Then if you're a smaller college, you know that you only got so much time with this said player before he or she ends up transferring out. So um you know, the landscape is totally different, you know. And so I tell people like this, like in order to it, it's more than just playing and loving this sport. Yeah. Like you gotta be 110% invested into it. But that's life. Anything that you're uh passionate or anything that you have a purpose that you feel is a purpose in life, you should be a hundred and ten percent invested in it. So signing your kid up for a sport and just thinking that okay, they're good at this sport, and they could just be under these coaches and they could go to these fly teams and win all these championships and shit, that's cool. But that's not that's not what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like you gotta get that extra training, right? You gotta get a nutritionist, you gotta get uh you gotta have uh on a you gotta have that athlete on the tight program. You gotta keep them away from people, you know what I'm saying? Because that's the number one thing. You know, what what most boys, girls, and girls and the and the wrong friends is the ones that keep you out the game.
SPEAKER_03You can have the most talent in the world, but those two I think uh no, it's it's it's it's interesting that you say all that, because uh, you know, me and my friends, we always had a conversation. I think uh a lot of things that you pointed out, as much as those are good things that get you to the next level, I think because there's so much emphasis on those now, it's almost taken away like the love from the game now. You get some of these kids who they they go through all these certain trainings and like regimens that by the time they get to that collegian level, they already burnt out to where they're already mentally checked out of it. So I think you gotta have like a healthy balance of it both to where it's like again, I understand the branding part and one of those opportunities, but you also gotta keep loving the game because if you lose that love for the game, that's gonna stop everything else around it.
SPEAKER_06That's a fact, and that's why, you know, like we have plenty of conversations where I'm like, I don't participate in spring tackle football. Like, you know, they could do seven on seven, they could do flag, they could I hope they do another sport. But if they're if they're doing spring football, like tackle football, like I think is a detriment to them because by the time I seen it for years, I've been coaching 16 years. I seen by the time they get about 13, they don't have no more passion. They're burnt out, they're tired of it, they don't even care about it by the time they're high school. If you look at the landscape now, a lot of these high school teams don't even have freshmen, uh freshman teams no more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the depending on where you're at. I mean, it's like I know being from the south, like spring football is big. So like I'm an advocate of spring football. I just think it's about how you go about it because you don't want to injure your players or like burn your players out, but I'm a huge advocate for it. Uh spring ball, that's where you earn your spot. That's where you earn your keep. That's like that's like where you see it.
SPEAKER_06Your spring ball is different from spring ball this way. Like spring ball out there is like a spring game. You guys are conditioning for uh like like for example, like the college spring ball. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out here, they're just really with most guys, let's be honest, they use it as a recruiting tactic so they won't lose their kids. So they'll play this this this sport at a high capacity level. And when I first started coaching, spring ball used to be for the kids that wasn't developed fast enough or that's you know needed more time to develop, they'll play spring tackle football to get better so they could get better for the fall of the following year, you know, if they're behind or something like that.
SPEAKER_03So let me let me let
Regional Development And Starting Football Late
SPEAKER_03me ask you something. With you being in the culture spaces world, what do you think, in your opinion, is such the biggest differences between football regionally, such as like football on the east coast, different from football down south and football from the west coast? Obviously, weather and climate and stuff like that, but why do you think it's so different? As in like example, I know on the West Coast, some schools don't even have like a middle school, like you don't even play football in middle school. It's pop warner all the way up to a certain age. Do you just go straight to high? Yeah, do you do you just go straight to high school versus like with me in the south? It's little league, middle school, high school, then collegiate if you're able to get to that level and so forth and so forth.
SPEAKER_06You know? That's that that's literally the the difference right there. Like growing up in California, even here in Vegas, there's no we we had a little middle school league out here, but it wasn't a middle school league. It's basically the Pop Warner League. I think they call it a middle school league. Um but out there they do you pretty much stick with your your your team. Like you don't see, well, I don't know how it is now, but you didn't see a lot of people jumping around from teen to teen. Yeah. They stayed with that team. So like once it comes to spring, you had your your your spring, your 707s, your your your spring workout. That's when they got that's when they got stronger, faster, you know, in the spring. And but they stayed with the same coaches, the same program, stuff like that. And then um and then all the way into high school. Yeah. So you went from like eight or seven to high school with this. I mean, it's different now, obviously, but you know, and I have buddies, especially that I play ball with. Uh once you got to the sixth or seventh grade, now you're trying out for your middle school team in Texas or you know what I mean? And then um you might have played pop warner steel or whatever the case is if you're just trying to just get that, if you just wanted to keep on playing and get that extra work. You know, but we didn't play, we didn't play in California, we didn't play year-round. The spring was to get faster and stronger and to get your hand-eye coordination better. That was what the spring was for.
SPEAKER_03You know, we don't play in the spring, it's just like it's like you said earlier, it's just like it's like practices and stuff like that, but it's not like an actual spring league to where like we're not playing other teams, we're just like scrimmaging ourselves getting better. Most in in the South for sure, most of everybody's like dual athletes or multiple sports athletes. So, like after the season, you got the you know, you got the friends going to basketball, some going to baseball, most of everybody going to track, so they can't get ready. Yeah. For the, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I think it just depends on like where you at. But I've always noticed like like like the West Coast is different. And I see pros and cons as well. Like some of the pros is like if a kid does weight later, their body's more developed and stuff like that. So I could I can understand that aspect of it, but then it's like it's harder to teach someone to play football when they get to that level a little bit because it's some of those natural fears you gotta get out. Like, like when you're young and you playing tackle, like you're used to getting hit, like you got it out of you. When you older, it's your first time putting on pads and you ain't never got hit before and stuff like that. You may have to adjust. And that could really, you know, slow some people's processes down mentally.
SPEAKER_06That's why uh with kids that start off a little bit later, I try to start them off with defense first. Because if you're used to getting the hitting, I mean if you're if you're if you're giving the hits, it's easier to adapt a little bit to the game most of the time. For me, for what I see in how I coached it, whatever. But you know, some people they just have that natural um they just had that natural raw athleticism where you know they just step into it and it's like like they've been doing it for years or whatever. Yeah. But me, like if you just start putting on pads and you late to the game, I hope that like you played other sports or you worked out or did something because when like when you raw and you're trying to do it at the last minute, it's hard. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, nah, it's because like at that point, some people like this how they eat, this is how they're gonna feed their family. So you fool at that point.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. They're looking for their way out. For sure. You know, and uh shh, you know, I know plenty of guys that was like they were they were dogs, but like it was some more, it was guys that would that wanted it a little bit more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And so by the time they got to the that neck that high school level, that college level, everybody's everybody could be good. You could be a superstar, Pop Warner, and then they blow up your head, and then what by the time you get to high school when the talent level starts evening out a little bit, yeah, and then now they get punched in the mouth and shit, yeah. Yeah, it's happening all the time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they think you know, little Pee-wee was good because he was running four or five touchdowns of Pop Warner, but then it's just like they don't realize that's just Pop Warner, and now you're moving up, moving up, and he ain't the same no more.
Football Lessons For Career Leadership
SPEAKER_06Yeah, how would you say for you personally that football shaped your life?
SPEAKER_03Football shaped my life a lot of ways. It taught me like discipline and like structure, being like a part of a team, honestly, and like keep myself like self-motivated. Um, you know, in football, you always gotta compete for spots, compete for that next level. And that's the same thing in life. In life, you always gonna have different obstacles and different things that you have to compete. So you have to keep doing different things to get yourself better, such as that's why I went to college. That was one of the things that I felt would help me go on the path that I was looking forward to in life. And you know, I don't think uh school is for everybody, it's completely optional, but I just knew for me the path that I wanted to go on. It was very essential that I get my education. And my mama told me I ain't had no choice really.
SPEAKER_06So moving that into the business aspect of things, you know, because like you're real business driven, business savvy. Um and that's I see that's where one of your other major passions are. You you're used to leading teams and you know, uh I would say like having people under you, you know, even at a young even if they're older than you, like you dive into that leadership role, you know. So I would say like how did that well football football translated did that uh did football translate all that that what I just said did that translate from football or yeah, some of those uh building blocks and foundation did because like in business, like you're still a team, right?
SPEAKER_03So football helped me uh stay respectful of the team and like understand like leadership and you know understanding uh the totem pole. I wasn't always in leadership positions, so I had to learn how to play my position and like work my way up. Being on the team, there's gonna be people older than you, gonna be people gonna be people younger than you. So you have to still learn how to be relatable and be like that glue in the middle. So for sure, football helped me with that a lot, especially with um accepting feedback. That's one thing a lot of people have a hard time with in the business world is like it's taking feedback and and uh and criticism. Because like sometimes you know, you get very uh passionate about the things that you do as you always should. But if you're not able to accept that feedback, then you're not gonna be able to escalate and get better, which is like coaching in football. If you're not willing to be coachable, then how are you gonna keep getting better and reach that next level, you know?
SPEAKER_06Right. Yeah, so I would think that people a lot of times they want to know how and I would think the the fans would probably want to know too, like being that you're probably most of the time the youngest person in the room at maybe a level that that's higher than other people, how are you able to lead these teams? How are you able to go into rooms and you know work in diverse places? And you know, how are you able to drive a team a certain way?
SPEAKER_03So I'm a lead by example type of guy, meaning I'm never gonna ask you to do something that you never seen me do over and over and over. But before we even get to that part and you know, leadership styles, I'm a human being first and foremost. So always like make sure I greet the room when I walk in, you know, just present myself as the person that I am. And most importantly, like finding those things to get people to buy in. Uh, the best thing that it was explained to me when I was growing up in my career, everyone has a why. And you have to find out the why and what makes them tick, right? So everyone has a different type of why. Like for me, my personal why is being a good example, more so for my family. I have a younger brother, uh, he's in the military and stuff. Uh shout out Lee. My brother, so like Lee. Yeah, no, right. Shout out Lee. So uh when I was growing up, you know, I I took great pride in having a young uh younger brother. So for me, it was always like my why was making sure I'm setting a good example for my brother so he doesn't fall down the wrong path and things and stuff like that. So me wanting to be that role model for him always kind of kept myself with that self-accountability, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_06That sounds good, great, but like let's get to the bottom of this. Like, the people really want to know can you make tough decisions? You know what I'm saying? Like, are you able to make tough tough decisions and stuff like that? Because like you said, like stuff that you would do, but can you make those tough decisions, especially when your back is against the wall?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, if you can't make those tough decisions, then you're in the wrong, you're in the wrong place. It's just like it's like with football. I played a tough position. I was a safety. So in football, when you're in safety, everything is on you. Regardless, whatever success comes hella hot water, everything falls on your shoulders. So if you can't take that pressure, then you shouldn't be in that position. Same thing on the business side, or even just like on leadership roles. Uh, if you can't make those tough decisions, then you shouldn't do it. Um, I've had to fire people in certain positions that's been that's been there longer than me, which wasn't easy because you're thinking about like, oh man, how am I affecting someone's family? But those are the things that you can't dwell on too much. Uh, that's where you got to have the balance between the business and the person. Because at the end of the day, business will gotta get done.
SPEAKER_06So we talk a lot of business and we got a lot of stuff behind the scenes that we've spoken about and stuff like that. Brewing
Going Viral With Rainwater In The Airport
SPEAKER_06in the pots. Yeah, brewing in the pot, you know, you know what I'm saying? And um, so you just went viral uh not too long ago with Iceman, you know. Shout out to that. You know, everybody's seen you on the internet. They said, wait a second, is that Brandon?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Like how was that and what came up out of that? You know, it's because they say sometimes the conversations is uh is worth more than a million dollars, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Um so this part I'm excited to talk about because this is where being a student of the game comes from, right? So I all day I'm a student of the game. So like whatever um whatever industry that I'm working on in that time, I'm studying, studying, studying. So, like I said, music is one of my lanes and one of my one of my avenues. So I'm constantly watching different music podcasts, and not just about the artist, but who's the person behind the artist. So the most average person, they may not know who a person's manager is or who his person producer is or who a person stylist even is, but I do because I'm I'm watching everything, I'm trying to find everything. So with that situation, I'm in the airport and uh I see rainwater and people walking past him, and in my head, I'm like, man, like that's rainwater. And I sat down and I was like, all right, like, you know, I don't want to be no groupie, I'ma just chill. But then after that second, I was like, nah, bro, you may not get another opportunity to meet someone in this position. So why would you not put yourself in this position? And this also comes with, you know, uh having faith because it's just like, you know, whenever you manifest things and you put them out there on the God and stuff, you may not know the timetable of when it's gonna happen, but you have to believe that it's gonna happen. So in that moment right there, it was just like, now I prayed for my opportunity in any shape, way, or form. So this could have been an opportunity right here. Even if it wasn't, I still had to just take that shot and risk. So I walked up to him and I introduced myself. Um, I would say, hey, Mr. Rainwater, how you doing? My name is Brandon. I'm not a rapper, I'm not this, I'm not that. I'm just a young man as well.
SPEAKER_06Wait, hold on, time out, time out. So Rainwater, a person that super viral, everybody knows.
SPEAKER_03And um he's he's a huge music manager for those who don't know. So he was like, he's like Mot 3's manager, yeah.
SPEAKER_06But everybody knows him just from social media. Uh-like, you know what I'm saying? And I would have, I ain't gonna lie, I would have judged you. I'd have been like, man, this is about to sell me a CD. He about to go, yeah about to come ask me for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he about to come ask me for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm Rainwater. Like, you want you want me to be your manager, type deal, you know what I'm saying? That's what I would have thought. You stress it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07I would have thought at first, man, this boy band, pretty rigged. You know what I'm saying? It's five in the month, man.
SPEAKER_02It's five in the air for me. And you got about two more of them jokes for our side roasting. You got you got about two more of them jokes. Wait a minute. That's one. You got one more forget on you.
SPEAKER_06You know what I'm saying? He about to get he about to go sell me a CD and some Skittles, you know what I'm saying? Oh man. So you approach Rainwater. You had the the balls into nassies, yeah, approach rainwater. So, first of all, I mean I'll get you the kudos because it's like, all right, yeah, he he ain't trying to sell me nothing, he approaching me on another level. My bad for interrupting you, but I just had to throw that in there.
SPEAKER_03Uh yeah, no, I mean it's all about presentation and like who you are. So, like, I've when I was growing up, I was always taught it's in you, not on you. So I never have to worry about being nobody but myself because everything that I speak and everything that I say, you know, it's in me, is what's been instilled in me, you know, from God and my family just you know, just matured it and nurtured it. So when I met him, it's like I said, I literally said Mr. Rainwater, because it was like, if I'm coming to you on business, I'm not finna come to you as if I already know you. I'm not finna come to you as like, yeah, you may present yourself as Rainwater, the manager on social media and stuff, but I'm not a rapper, so I'm not finna come to you with that type of energy. Like I said, I'm a business guy at the end of the day. So when you walk in these rooms, you gotta know how to present yourself. Me saying Mr. Rainwater let his whole guard down because most people don't say Mr. Rainwater unless it's business type of conversations. So by me saying that, it let his guard down, and we had a actual real impactful conversation that led to the posting and things like that. And I didn't even ask for it, just you know, me just presenting myself a certain type of way, you know, blessing it happen.
SPEAKER_06That's dope. That's dope. And then from there, like I'm seeing you, you know, get posted on different people's instant and social medias and stuff like that. And you know, what did after that, after that talk, and you know, you him posting you, like what transpired from from there? Because I'm pretty sure people was hitting you, hey, let me give you this to give to this person, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Like for sure. That started happening uh instantly overnight. People who I didn't even think knew who I was or was even watching me, like that happened like overnight to where people start sending me their music, people start sending me different um professions and crafts that they work on all because of a post and things like that. So it worked out in my favor. I was able to make uh connections and utilize those platforms and things like that. Uh I was blessed to be on this amazing podcast here and things and stuff like that. You know, appreciate y'all having me again. So, I mean, yeah, um, when God gives you opportunity, you just gotta know how to take it and run with it, but do it the right way. Um, like I said, I didn't present myself in any type of way that wasn't me. So it made it just natural and organic for people to want to take to me and want to start working with me.
SPEAKER_06So now what's next? What's now what's next?
SPEAKER_03Like so now what's next now that I have eyes on me and stuff and things like that. I want to build my brand. And like I said earlier, I'll uh lead by example. So before I try to get those up under me to help propel those careers, I have to be that first blueprint of myself and start putting myself out there and keep building my brand up and keep constantly going to the next level. So it's gonna be uh more shows. I'm sorry, not more shows. Well, more podcast shows. That's what I meant. So more like podcast shows, stuff like that. Uh just you know, me putting myself out there more, kind of letting the world know what I do and things and stuff like that before I start launching out the major projects, like, okay, we got this cooking up, we got this cooking up, I gotta put myself out there first.
SPEAKER_06You got um like a lot of high energy, you know. Yeah, like so for the people like because I like to give game, especially to men, but to everybody. Um but what are some of the things
Building A Brand Without Chasing Clout
SPEAKER_06that like drive one that drives you? And like let's talk about some of the things, like let's talk about your day-to-day basis, like like you wake up, like what what gets you moving outside of like God waking you up and stuff like that. For sure, for sure, for sure. You know what I mean? Like, what gets you inspired throughout the day? You know what I'm saying? What drives you, what's some of your passions that make you want to do this now? Like, because it sounds like to me, everything you say, you wanted to be in the business management aspect of everything. So you want to be that that branded knight. That should, yeah, you know, because you ain't that big, you know what I'm saying? You ain't that scary neither, you know what I'm saying? I I I'm thinking that you're gonna sell me some beats in the uh in a t-shirt. Yeah. No, I'm just all I'm just all jokes.
SPEAKER_03Hey, but you know what though, I use that to my advantage though, because a lot of people look at me, they don't know like uh if I'm a rapper, if I'm a producer, if I'm this or not. So I'm gonna start talking about it. I could do that. Hey, but you know what though? Having all publicity is good publicity. So if people, I like the fact that when you look at me, you don't know exactly what I am, which is what makes us a successful business. Like uh, like um, example, Walmart, right? When you hear Walmart, you don't know that it's a grocery store, but they're not only a grocery store, they got electronics, they got a uh uh auto body shopping there and stuff like that. So it's like that's how I kind of wanted to model and brand myself to where it's like when you hear branding, you have to ask or you have to stop and ask me what do I do? Or man, you may do this, you you may do that, and that's how I get you to automatically buy in.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03So it's strategic. I did it on purpose.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. Yeah, all right. So what is your your day-to-day routines like to keep you in that great hair space and shit? Because I mean, I done seen you irritated and flustered at certain things, whatever the case may be. But then again, like for the most part, like you keep a calm, cool, balance and sit stuff. So it's like, all right. Yeah, he's high level, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know what I'm saying? For sure. High energy. Yep. Uh a day-to-day routine for me, and like what keeps me motivated and going is um, like like I said, like uh my why is really important in my life. So I always wanted to be impactful in my family. So I wake up every day and I think about how can I impact my family, even if it's something small, like uh in the family group chat, if I could, you know, start the day off and get everybody laughing or something like that. Just energy like that keeps me going. So using something like that just propels, folks. So from having that on my mind next, it's to the the music I'm listening to that day. Because music and everything is about your energy and your aura and the vibe and like what you put out there. So I may wake up, uh, give y'all some game. I may wake up one day and put some James Brown on, or I may wake up one day and put some temptation on. And that kind of that kind of settles like my smoothness in the way and things and stuff like that. Because those are very calm and collected uh types of music uh artists to listen to. It's some of my favorite artists as well. Um, outside of that, I've stretched, I'm real big on stretching, working out, things and stuff like that, and just keeping myself informed and in tune on what's going on in the world. People ask me all the time, like, because I don't have a big social media presence. So people don't ask me all the time, like, man, how you know this person, or you know I listen, you know all that, but you don't have that huge presence, and it's just like when you're really in tune with something and things like that, it's uh it's a natural thing that just comes out of you, you know.
SPEAKER_06Sometimes, like that huge social media presence, or what appears to be a huge social media presence, is sometimes deceiving because a lot of times these people they just might follow for follow, whatever the case may be, or they might have bots, whatever. Um but a lot of them, like whenever they're pushing something, you see that they don't have a huge turnout on what they're pushing because they don't like their their quote unquote presence is bought. You know what I'm saying? Or it's not real. They don't have those real people behind them. They can't call and ask for a favor, or they can't call and ask for, hey, can you do this, uh open the door for this, blah blah blah, or hook my boy up with that, you know, hook my homegirl with this. Nah, they might just sometimes we get deceived by all these numbers, these big numbers, and and what the limelight, what it looks like on social media, whatever the case may be, but in reality, it'd be like totally opposite. Like I know somebody they had like 1.2 million followers, you know, on Instagram.
SPEAKER_03They can all be fake.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, bro. Like I was like, all right, well, let's do some business stuff like that. Um some behind the scenes stuff, and like like they basically had nobody to show up from. They didn't even have the bread like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it looks good, you know, from uh a standpoint of people just looking and oh, this person got all these followers and stuff like that. But then in reality, they had no person to call when we were really trying to sit down and put this business stuff together, you know. But then I knew people that that don't have a huge presence, they might have 300 friends, maybe five at the most, you know what I'm saying? But like they could call a million different people, and those people will show up, or those people will spin, and those people would, oh, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna introduce uh T over here, and you're gonna talk to this person, you're gonna talk to that person, you're gonna talk to this person, you're gonna go from here, blah blah blah, you know what I'm saying? And so a lot of times, all this stuff is deceiving. Just like remember um MTV Cribs? Right. MTV Cribs and True Life uh and all that stuff, all that reality T. Pit My Ride. Pit My Ride, yeah. Uh even Housewives of Hello, you know, what's the little day show?
SPEAKER_03Uh what's that? Um, what's that? Uh what is it called? Like Nick's or something like that. Oh, yeah, I used to put it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02They go, they go look in your room and see a yeah, no, no, room rated. Hey, yeah. I'm showing my age right now.
SPEAKER_06Okay, okay, okay,
TV Nostalgia And Staying Low Key
SPEAKER_06okay. Since we're here, five shows that you wanted to be on, or whatever, um, when you were growing up. It could be any shows, yeah. Or movies, all right, uh, that you wanted to be on. All right. That you later found out that it was probably some bullshit.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. I don't know if I found out that it was, you know, some some rubbish, but uh I do got some shows that I wanted to be on growing up. My father's hitting the mic, I'm so excited, you asked me. So the first one, the Bernie Mac show. Man, I love the Bernie Mac show as a kid growing up. I would have been on that. I ain't gonna lie, I wouldn't want to be in the cousin that beat up Jordan, though. You know what I'm saying? Because he he was a little annoying. Yeah, so I would've been. Everybody had a cousin like Jordan. Hey, I have man, preacher to the choir, bro. Yeah, so I wanted to be the cousin that beat up Jordan. Uh second, I want to be on uh my wife and kids. My wife and kids, yeah, yeah. I feel like uh I feel like Junior was extra lame, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like he was very much late on the spectrum. Yeah, so I ain't yeah, so uh I wanted to be on that show. Uh what's another show? Uh I ain't gonna lie, I know it's a little bit before my time, but uh Living Single. Living Single. Yeah, I wanted to be on Living Single. I feel like Mastine or what? Man, I feel like I would have been live on that show, wanted to be on Living Single. Um, definitely would have wanted to be on Martin. Okay. For sure would have wanted to be on Martin. Man, I'm telling you, man, Martin classic. I love Martin. And then the last one, man, it's probably gonna trip you up. But because my last name, I wouldn't want to have been on the Gilmore girls. Because my last name Gilmore. So it would have just worked out perfectly fine. It would have tripped a lot of people up, but you know, hey, you would have looked like a polka dot on the on that show.
SPEAKER_02There we go. Hey, but you know what?
SPEAKER_03Everybody needs a little seasoning, you feel me? Everybody needs a little flavor.
SPEAKER_07Like, what does this do? Is he just telling me the butler or something?
SPEAKER_03Thought I was the uh Dr.
SPEAKER_06Gilmore or something. I think I used to like so I grew up um Yeah, and a little bit around that era, a little bit, a little bit above it, but um Yeah, I used to want to be on Room Raiders for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You look like a room raider. Yeah, necks. You probably, yeah. You probably would have had all types of little weird little knickknacks in your room and stuff like that. You look like one of them type. What you played Zelda in your free time or something? Nah, nah, nah.
SPEAKER_06So we'll have to talk about that. I don't want to embarrass you. But um, I used to want to go on uh College Hill.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_06Uh Real World. Yeah. You look like one of them real world type.
SPEAKER_02Hey, my name T, y'all.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, nah, you so my game, especially like in high school and after, I was like that cool, smooth dude that just like was trying to get the girls and stuff. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03So you wasn't one of them uh wear my hood type of brothers. Nah, nah, that's too kind of.
SPEAKER_06I didn't feel like I used to want to be like, well, I was, but on the show, I would want to be the guy that snatched the girls that the guy was trying to do that to. Okay. So like if that guy was trying to do that to those girls, like, and she's like, oh, this is cringe, he's creepy. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why he's like that, man. You know, like so you wanted them, what's your problem, bro? Nah. You wanted them type of nah nah, not Captain Saberho right in the middle, though. Not Cap Not Captain Saberho, but right in the middle, like, yeah, oh, that's lame, brother. You know what I'm saying? Like, just follow me. You know what I'm saying? Type deal. But yeah, that's the shows that I used to want to go on, especially real world.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_06And uh Limon Day too.
SPEAKER_03Uh Limon Day. Uh nah, limitate was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Fifth Wheel was cool too. Like, you know, but that was like maybe like after the top five, you know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know. So yeah, that was my that was my thing. But be honest with you, growing up, I'm like, I never wanted to like the limelight. Like, I always wanted to be behind the scenes. Uh, I always wanted to be that guy that just well connected, you know what I'm saying. I didn't care, I didn't care about all that flashy stuff. I never I still don't. Um I like to be out the way, flex occasionally, yeah, show up, yeah. It's kind of mystery a little bit, and then I'm back out the way again, you know what I'm saying? So that's always been my tactic with the women was like like I'm not super flamboyant, right? You know, and I'm not trying to prove you that I'm Mr. Tough guy, like we could we could prove that, but what do we need to prove that for? Right, you know what I'm saying, when when the proof is already in the pudding. For sure. You know what I'm saying? So like I was is always too cool for school, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just cool, con, collector, smell good, you know, dress fitted, you know, out the way, you know, didn't want too much, even when I play football. Like, I have guys I played with in high school, even when I played arena football, they was always going for the big hits, big hits, big hits, big hits, big hits, you know, trying to get the interceptions, trying to, you know, how to drip and stuff like that. I came out looking cool, whatever. You know what I'm saying? But I'm the one that's making the tackles, but like I ain't making those super big hits. I'm just stopping you. I'm just doing my job. Yeah. Same thing when I do business. Like I'ma shake hands and I'm gonna be the person that connects everybody with everybody. Right. Or whatever the case may be. Right. But then I'm back out the way. Like, I don't need to do no more talking. I'm back out the way again. You know what I'm saying? That's that's me right there. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that cool, I guess it's that cool player, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Like, yeah, and I can I can definitely see that. That's like definitely your vibe and your aura. I feel like I'm the uh I feel like I'm the same way in a way, because with wanting to be in the career field that I'm in, you can't want to be selfish in the hardest spotlight, you know. You don't want to be, you know how some managers they may have people artists up under their belt, but it's all about the manager and like not the artist. I've never been that type of guy. Growing up, uh, I always sucked at basketball, so I could never play basketball, but I like watching it. So growing up, I would be like a huge like Rajon Rondo fan and things and stuff like that, right? So Rondo, I was a huge Rondo fan because yeah, he didn't score all the buckets, but if you wasn't a real basketball head or fan, you didn't know the team didn't flow without Rondo.
SPEAKER_06For sure. At one point in time, Rondo was yeah, he was that yeah, arguably the best point guard in the league for sure.
SPEAKER_03So it was like um he's actually one of my favorite point guards, my ultimate favorite point guard is Magic Johnson. But even the same way, I like facilitating and I like making everybody else feel good. I'm okay with people not knowing who I am, as long as the people who feeling good know that I helped them in some shape, way, or form, even if it's a small token or whatever.
SPEAKER_06That's why you kind of play safety. Exactly. Think about it, like the safety is really like the last line of defense. 100%. You know what I'm saying? So the safety can either make or break your team, but at the same time, like the safety's not gonna get the the most glamour eye, you know, that that quarterback, receiver, running back, and then you got your your linebackers, your corners, and then the safety, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03I'm okay with that though, because you also know, because you also know that hey, it's third and five. I need my guy to come make a play. So you know you're gonna call your safety, hey, come get in the box or come do, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06So like we seen it, wait, I'm glad that you said that because we seen it this season coaching, right? Yep. So one of the I would say at his age group, one of the best kids at his age group, you know, I was just had I just had a conversation about this on the phone yesterday. Um he we had him playing in a linebacker spot, you know, in all the noise and traffic. But what we learned is like nobody could defend the field like he could. So we put well he put the team on his back and we and then we all came together and wound up moving him to safety.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And when we moved him to safety, that he was able to see the field a lot more, and he was a lot, he saved a lot of touchdowns. Yep. He might on the defensive side, yeah. Of course, you know, since he's making most of the tackles out there and doing all this, yeah, he got the the glamour. But like in in a in a real 11-man defense, well, he probably not. I don't know, you know. I don't know, because he was a he was a he played more of a he's a free safety that played more of a strong safety. Yeah. You know, but I don't know. That was the same with me, man. Same with me. Um I played defensive and a linebacker. Nothing glamorous about that, especially when I played.
SPEAKER_03Um the them the that's why everybody gets paid at the DN's getting paid right now, the D-line.
SPEAKER_06When I was playing, that was like maybe third or fourth. Oh, yeah. Because you gotta think, it's your at the time, this is still when when it was in the passing link, when it was still when they were still running the ball too. So it was your your quarterbacks, your receivers, running backs, offensive line. Then you go to the your corners, and your defensive line and linebackers was maybe tied. Oh yeah. You know, so like uh I set up, did my job, and you know, the I I had a passion of doing it, and I wanted to do I wanted in my mind, it was like if if I'm doing my job, then that means we we winning. You know what I'm saying? We gonna win by any means necessary. I'm playing my part for us to win. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Same thing with coaches in this year. Like, when all the turmoil went down and we wind up coming all together as one, you know, um, being on one team, um I just shut, I I'm just here for we could get this championship. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you know, I I take a backseat role because that's I was groomed that way, you know what I'm saying? Um I take the backseat role because I don't have an ego, you know.
SPEAKER_03And it also takes a certain type of level of just uh natural uh humility to want to be like that because like a lot of people um we just they have that natural desire to want to be the spotlight, want to be the guy, want to be the person, want to be the person in front of the camera all the time and stuff like that. And that's cool. Some people have the natural ability for that, or some people they really desire that. So cool, like go get that. But a lot of people don't like we was talking about earlier, the people behind the scenes that make things flow, that's what people lose the value on and they forget the whole aspect of. That's what that's what I think that we should kind of start putting like a more focus back on. Like, example, um, we don't have no more um LA Reeds coming up. No, we don't we don't have no more um Barry Gordy's. Uh shout out Barry Gordy. I was a huge Barry Gordy fan growing up. And I'm saying that like I'm born in the 40s and stuff like that, but you have an old show. Yeah, like that just goes to show you like the student of the game. So like we don't have no more like Barry Gordy's and things like that growing up because everyone now wants to be Michael Jackson or everyone now wants to be Prince, or so forth and so forth. So for me, it's like I want to be the that era of the new Barry Gordies that's ushering that talent and people and putting people connected. And I don't want it just to be on one side. I want it to be in every aspect that I do. I always want to be that big connection piece. I don't need to be the spotlight. You don't even got to tell people that you got this um opportunity or anything like before me. You don't even have to acknowledge that you got something because of me, because that's not what I do it for. I genuinely just have the desire to want to help and connect people any way that I can because it's just like I don't know. I'm just I'm just wired that way. Just like I went back to earlier. I I grew up watching Rondo, so I think making the live assist is way better than any jump shot or any layup I could do myself, you
Music Taste Soundtrack Picks And Texas Rap
SPEAKER_03know?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. You're are you real big on uh music? Like like real, real big, like to the point where like are you an album listener or are you a song listener?
SPEAKER_03I'm an album listener, uh, but I I was able to have two different sets of ears because I grew up old school music, but I've got to see the new era of music come about to where you gotta listen to more singles and more fast food than albums. So I got two sets of ears for both.
SPEAKER_06Okay, let's play a game.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Let's play a game.
SPEAKER_06We're gonna do you're building a you're building a group that basically is five people in this group. They basically is the soundtrack of your life.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06So you have, you know, it could be the five within that five, it could be a group. It could be, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06It could but five.
SPEAKER_03So pick five artists as like the soundtrack of my life. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Okay. And then we'll go, and then after that, we'll go the the soundtracks of your life. Okay. The actual soundtracks of your life. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So if I had to pick five artists, that's like the soundtracks of my life. Five artists. Uh James Brown. I'ma say number one, I gotta say James Brown. Uh, that's my favorite musician, my favorite artist of all time. Uh, I feel like he really embodies sonically the struggles of like what a man is to be in American society. Uh, so definitely James Brown, number one. Number two, um, I ain't gonna lie to you, Kurt Franklin. I'm a huge, I'm a huge Kurt Franklin fan. Oh, we uh we coached Kurt Franklin. Yeah, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06We uh yeah, Kurt Franklin Dave.
SPEAKER_02You out of line, brother.
SPEAKER_05God gonna get you came. Now you out of line.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a huge Kurt Franklin fan. Um, you know, growing up in the church and stuff like that. I even went to a Kurt Franklin concert when I was a kid. So yeah, huge Kurt Franklin fan. So James Brown, Kurt Franklin, um, Shaka Khan. Love me some Shaka Khan, man. Let me Shaka Khan. I think that's uh that's where like kind of like some of my calmness comes from, because you gotta have a good balance. So definitely Shaka Khan. Um outside of Shaka Khan, um I ain't gonna lie, we're gonna get a little new school with it, ESTG. I'm gonna throw some ESTG in there, cause you know, like, yeah, yeah, like hey, hey, hey, hey. Sometimes you just, you know, you feel me. You know what I'm saying? So throw some ECG in there. And then um one more, okay. I ain't gonna lie, it's gonna be like a tie for me, cause like uh dang. All right, let me get six, cause like I can't leave this person out. All right, so I gotta throw Pac in there.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03I gotta throw, I gotta throw Pac in there. And then six for me, I ain't gonna lie, like I'm from Houston, I love my city. So I gotta say zero or Saucewalker. I got to. Because them like a lot of time I was like, you know, a city when I was growing up, it's kind of funny because like I never thought I I miss a Saswalker or heavy light, like music.
SPEAKER_06Saucewalker the truth. Yeah, I'm gonna say it again, Saucewalker the truth. I think he's almost like kind of like and I'm not correlating both of them together, but um he's kind of like almost like a ray jade, like his antics and how he be on sometime on social media, like you don't know if you could take them serious or not, right? And then but when you listen to his music, the same thing with like for me, like Kodak. Like, I like Kodak's music, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Like, uh and and remember when I told you about how when people, when you was like, I I don't know if you a rapper, producer, whatever. And that's why I talk about strategically knowing how to brand yourself. Sauce Sauce Walker learned how to brand himself as a multifaceted business, to where it's like what you just said, it works perfect for his business because you don't know what you're gonna get from Sauce Walker, but that's the that's the brilliance and the idea of how he branded himself to where he could do everything, to where now he could rap, he could stream, he got multiple businesses all throughout Houston. So that's the beauty of it.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna say like the last, I'm gonna say I'll say 2019.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, see, he's been a legend in Houston before he blew up at Sauce Walker. Like everybody knows about the the incident at TSU and stuff like that. So like before he was Sauce Walker, he was really known as Awok in the city. So if you was really from Houston or really from certain type of towns, like you really knew him as AWOK. I'm not saying I knew him personally because I don't. I never met him in my life, but I'm just saying, like, being from Houston, he's his he's had that big of an impact. It's just like someone who from uh somebody who from California, uh particularly Los Angeles, recipes, Nipsey Hustle, someone who's from that area and they got to really like grow up seeing Nip, even though you may not have met him, you remember seeing certain stuff growing up. That was me.
SPEAKER_06I mean I met him, but like that was me. Like I like I grew up seeing every stage of Nip. You know what I'm saying? Same thing with you know a lot of other artists. But um, yes, I definitely get what you're saying with that one because yeah, um, but yeah, I before, yeah, I say I got like I started listening to his music like heavy, like 2019, because like when I when I was living in Nashville, one of my partners, uh he was from Dallas, and we were in Dallas, actually, and then we was it was a couple different people that he was putting he was putting me on to some Texas music basically. And he put me on the him like this is a dude from the internet, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I'm thinking he like at the time I'm thinking he like somebody like Takashi or somebody like that, you know what I'm saying? And then I start I sat down and listened to his music. I'm like, oh this shit, you know what I'm saying? He be really rapping about some shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Nah, he's a he's a real lyricist. Like a lot of people be sleep, man. I'm glad we're on this segment right now. A lot of people be sleep on southern artists. Like, I get we have a different type of lifestyle, we have a different type of like uh southern like draw and like slang and how we say stuff. Like, like I say, Houston, you know what I'm saying? So like people be asking me like where you from, like I say Houston, or like I say like Nevada, or I say Sahara, and people be laughing at me and stuff like that. But you know, you take away all that, we really have great MCs from the South, especially Texas.
SPEAKER_06I can name them all day, Scarface, so forth. I can go all day. You know what it is about the South is the I think I mean the South been kind of running like music for a while now, but at the same time, you know why sometimes people kind of sleep on a little bit because it's too many different pockets of the South, you know what I'm saying? Because think about it, you got Texas is a whole different lane from Atlanta, but they're all considered the South. Same thing with uh like your your Florida boys, you know what I'm saying, and then you got you know your uh even Memphis, like you know, some people consider that the South, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, uh some people consider that more east, you know. It depends.
SPEAKER_03Like, some people think Atlanta's the East because when you're in Atlanta, you on East Coast time, so a lot of people think it's the East, but I still consider Atlanta the South.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, most people I think when people think of the South, most of the time they do think of Atlanta, like Atlanta music.
SPEAKER_03Atlanta, Atlanta's part of dirty south for sure. Atlanta, you can't say southern music culture without Atlanta from the outcast. Yeah, you got Virginia, too. You know, I'm yeah, Virginia too, yep. Yeah, people don't know Virginia the South too. Yep, yep, because like some people equate that with the north, and you know, nah, if you if you know, you know Virginia's the South, the original 13 colonies when they came over here and they had some tobacco fields and stuff, yeah. They was in Virginia, so if you know, you know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I think some people like always, since it's going towards the east, you know, yeah, you know, I always considered it the south, but as far as like musically and I mean regionally too, but um and then what other states you got Florida, you got uh Alabama.
SPEAKER_03Shout out to Alabama, they had a uh recent recent surgency of music the past couple years from uh the no caps, the Rallows, the uh Honeycomb Brazi. So I mean I don't listen to really none of the Ralo, yeah. But the Rallo, yeah. I mean this the South, like I said, man, we have like our own like unique style, like even the people from uh you know Florida, uh Young and Aces, the people that's and stuff like that. So I mean the South has its own unique style, but if you're from the South, every part of it is relatable. Like I said, like like I'm from Houston, but when I hear certain Memphis artists, I can still relate to what they're saying and what they're going through because just being from the South, like we could we could all still relate.
SPEAKER_06See, one of I'm about to age myself out a little bit, but uh one of my uh all-time favorite rappers as far as storytelling is Scarface. For sure. Yeah, Scarface.
SPEAKER_03Have you ever heard of serial killer by Scarface?
SPEAKER_06Man, look, look, I used to be. If they're gonna say storytelling, they're gonna say probably Q, right? Um, but I'm like I used to put Q like I'm weird when it comes to music, you know, I know music really well. Um so I'll take Biggie, I like Biggie's as a rapper better than Tupac. I think that he's a better lyricist than Tupac. Tupac is a better artist, okay? To me. And then as far as Ice Cube, Ice Cube is the I would say is probably the bigger artist, but I think Scarface, for me, he was the to me, he I under I I guess fell more in line with his stories a little bit more. Like he's a better storyteller than me, a little bit. It's like like right there, 1A1B, you know what I'm saying? So don't get me wrong, like cube is that like that dude, and his pen is in impeccable.
SPEAKER_03But but that just comes with um one of the cultures about the South. Like we're like we're real good with like uh storytelling, you know, southern folklore and things and stuff like that. So uh yeah, no, Scarface, he sounds like you know, he sounds like being on a porch with your with your grandfather sitting back rocking, drinking some tea. Yeah, and they and they and they and they telling you how it was growing up, but the way they paint that imagery is very vivid in your mind. So yeah, nah, Scarface, he's uh as far as like storytelling, and to me, he's one of the if I had to name, I'm glad we're on this topic too. So let's let's let's go and put it out there. So top five rappers from Texas all time. We talking all genres and stuff. I mean, I mean all errors, not just my arrow, so I'm not gonna be biased. So number one, you gotta go Scarface. Number one, you gotta go Scarface for what he did for Texas. Um number two, I ain't gonna lie, you gotta put like Pimps C in there. You gotta put, you gotta put Pimpsy in there. Sauce Walker, you cannot downplay what Sauce Walker has done. He's been like the face of the new resurgence of Texas, Houston particular zero, gotta throw zero in there. And then that fifth one, man, that's tough. It could be a lot. Because you could put uh you could put little Kiki, you could put Slim Thug, you could put little flip. Like it's a it's a lot of great Texas legends that you could put Bushwick Bill, Willie D. I mean, but that's the ghetto.
SPEAKER_06Like most of the time when you put Bushwick Bill and Willie D and all of them together, like you gotta like most of the time everybody puts them as a group.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, true. But I mean, but like, you know, even some of the real fans know when like they briefly had their little split and stuff like that and stuff, you know. Yeah, you know, like well, like back in the day, they would split when it was together, shit. But you but you know, you know, but like I said, man, like you know, the real ones know, like yeah, there was a group, but like you gotta have special ears because like Willie D was really that dude, like Willie D we could really spit, you know what I'm saying? For real.
SPEAKER_06I think Willie D could spit, but like at the time where he was rapping, um, and I l I watch his podcast too sometimes. Um sometimes he just gets a little bit too, but you know, but um I think Willie he was in a time where it was just a lot of great rappers out at that time. So, you know, so it was hard to because he you're he's he was out in the in the same era, your pox, your biggies, and but I got a question to that though. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Do you think rap was really good because the music was good, or do you think the secrecy of raps still was hidden? So certain stuff wasn't out yet, because you know. Social media wasn't really big like that during the 90s. So, like, there was a most of the 90s, a lot of I'm glad we could talk about it. A lot of people don't know the 90s was the biggest era of the studio gangsters. Not saying no names, but the 90s was the biggest era of other studio gangsters, and I think all the studio gangsters created some of the real gangsters that we have in today's rap because they was looking up to these fake gangsters thinking it was real when in reality it wasn't. Like I'm a Pac fan, so I'm never gonna, you know what I'm saying? But we all know Pac wasn't really he wasn't really like that. But I'm a I'm a huge Pac fan though. I ain't gonna never downplay it. It's uh it's it's others, it's other rappers back back from those eras to where it was just like they knew how to make it sound, so that's why it appealed. Like Biggie, he was kind of the exception because he was really a street dude, so that's why he can make a song like the Ten Crack Commandments, and people can respond to it much better because it sounds very authentic. Versus Tupac, he couldn't make no street song because he really wasn't from the streets like that, but he can make a song like Brenda's Got a Baby, he can make a song like that to where it brings like social awareness to certain issues, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, I mean, people they they felt that.
SPEAKER_06I mean, and in a certain point in time, like like I say, the rebranding's the rebranding of Pac towards the later l years of his life, they probably thought he was a gangster until they really unless they really knew him or they really seen later on. Um yeah, I mean okay, so I say the nineties, the the music, it was more of a mystery because like like you said, it was it wasn't the surgence of social media, but um at the same time, like everything was a mystery. So like we used to have to go read the back of the CD covers and the album covers and the tape covers and stuff and go to the CD store and shit like that and like really try to figure out who these people were, you know what I'm saying? Uh outside of like their song, like we didn't know who they were outside of their songs and stuff like that, right? And so um, yeah, it was a lot of guys that fake it, fake faked it to their made eight for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of women too.
SPEAKER_03Like, oh yeah, like let's talk about it. Like, I respect Ashanti, I think Ashanti's dope, but I think when you compare her to the women like of her era, your your Brandys, your Monica's, uh, your Beyoncés, your, you know what I'm saying? Like, she didn't have, I don't think she had the the full package as those artists did. Like, she couldn't really entertain. She could, she could hold the note a little bit, but she couldn't really like entertain and like do all what they could do.
SPEAKER_06She was uh she was um well, she was signed to some great producers. Murder Inc.
SPEAKER_03And that's what I'm trying to say. Uh you know, uh Irv Gotti, Chris Gotti, you know, rest in peace to one of brothers that passed away. But um, they had like a good like business acumen with Ashanti to where it was like if you notice most of her songs, there's they're all samples from hits from a little bit before her, and she just was able to sample them to where it got you to appeal, but it made you still feel like this was her song. Like, what's that song? Um, see my days are gone without you. Oh, yeah, whatever. That's a that's a whole sample, but she was able to put her own twist on it to where you don't recognize the sample when you first hear it, you just think of Ashanti's version.
SPEAKER_06That's just Ashanti and uh Diddy, like 90%. No, I wouldn't say 90%, but a large percentage of Diddy's songs, mostly songs that he sampled and redid, yeah. Um again with Ashanti too. Then you had Ashanti had one of the biggest hip-hop artists next to her. So like anything that at that time that Ja Rule was on, it was gold. You know what I'm saying? It was it was going it was going up, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03So uh I got a question to pair
What Artists Need In The Social Era
SPEAKER_03what you just said. So like you were saying, like, the myth, like uh how back in the day it was like about the mystery and the mystique, and you had to read the back of the CDs and stuff like that. With now, what do you think artists have to have? Because that sense of mystery is like gone now. So now it's not just about the music. I have my own opinion about it, but what do you now think an artist has to have in addition to with good music or quality music?
SPEAKER_06Um now, like now, people want to see you, they don't want the mystery. Exactly. But I would rather them have the mystery. Like, for example, like even though we know how Paul's big Drake is, like, he don't at one point he wasn't dropping every year like the average artist was. You know what I'm saying? He was dropping every two, three years. You know what I'm saying? So like you couldn't wait because you you you you knew the wait for three years or two to three years was worth it. So that was a whole build-up. Yeah, I mean now too, but I mean, he just came off that shit with Kendrick and this, that, this, that. So but we knew the whole mystique of waiting, you know, the buildup, I say. Um and Drake wasn't always outside like that. It was like certain error, like the certain areas of Drake, he wasn't outside all the time. Right. You know what I'm saying? So people when he became to that level, people like that built up the fans even more because now they're waiting. Like, same thing with like a Kanye or whatever, right? Like, Kanye wasn't dropping super frequent. So, like now the buildup to his shit, even if it was good or bad to people, it was still like, damn, it's Kanye. Oh my gosh, I can't wait. You know what I'm saying? I'm more I like how Pusha T do it. Pusha T drops like every three to four years. And like every album, I never heard of maybe one bad album from Pusha T.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna get you with this though. I'm gonna get you with this though. So it's all about like knowing your audience. Like, example, um, Tupac, right? When he was doing his thing, it was feasible for him to make a lot of music and be all in your face like that. Because at that time, he was hot. It was good for him to do that. With with an artist like um, let me think of someone like on the more modern time, with someone like 21 Savage, right? 21 Savage makes great music, but I think 21 Savage knows if he made a lot of music and put it out there, he will water himself out and people wouldn't want to hear him no more. So I think 21 Savage does a very good job of not only making good music, but he knows the right timing to put out his music to where he's no one ever forgets about 21, and no one ever put 21 on this bracket of like if he's better than anybody or not, because he was able to create his own lane and he makes though and he puts the right music out at the right time when it's needed. But this is why people uh this is why I say we need more Barry Gordies and more like the management side, because you have to have someone who's who's strategic and can know that for you. Example, um, I'll give you uh a good example of I think of an artist who rebranded himself recently in a very good way. Finesse two times. I think he recently rebranded himself to where it's like if you didn't know him for music, you'd know him for his streams. And now the two is tying together to where finesse two times he said he never has to get a Grammy, he never has to worry about having a million album sales because he built that cult fan base and that following to where people actually like him. He is now bigger than any product he can do. So whatever he does is gonna go because people now like him. And that's what I'm trying to get, that's what I was trying to connect.
SPEAKER_06Harry got ripped off on like uh like a deal that he had. Um, that's a this is a side note, but I heard he got ripped off for like a deal that he had, like he's trying to get out that deal.
SPEAKER_03Oh, like his contract with uh Jay Press on him and stuff like that. Uh I ain't gonna lie, we're gonna speak on business that ain't ours. We ain't gonna need to speak on that. We know what I'm saying. If you know, you know, you know we ain't speaking, yeah. Yeah, we ain't speaking on no business that ain't ours. But uh nah, um, like yeah, like he did a really good job of like re-rebranding himself, and that's why I said like having that management piece is very good and a part of it because you have to have someone who cares about your career path enough to strategically help you reach your goals to where you want to go. Because some artists is not an artist everybody wants to hear all the time. Like, there's some artists who could drop all the time, like all these adrill rappers, they could drop often because they're not making long-lasting music. So you want to keep hearing the new, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because like somebody that did it perfect to me was probably two chains. Like he was titty boy. I'm different, yeah. I'm different. And then he dropped that. The once he came out with two chains, he dropped, he came hard. Boba pause. But he came hard with the uh um with the with that album based on the true story, and then uh all that stuff. And then he just kept on boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
SPEAKER_03Hey, his hardest song is that uh that good morning song. That that song, that that song Good Morning and Um uh Here We Go Again off that uh hibachi for lunch mixtape. Them some of his best songs. Uh oh, and that poor fool off that off that pink trap house tape. I like that song.
SPEAKER_06I don't know if that's his hardest, but I mean it's ejective, I guess.
SPEAKER_03Depending on what you like from Two Chains, because when I hear Two Chains, I'm looking to feel like you know, I'm be fresh as hell if the feds watching. Yeah. You feel me? Like I'm trying to feel fresh.
SPEAKER_06French Chains have uh he's one of those artists that never missed for me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, I think his business acumen is very underrated, and that's why he doesn't miss musically. Another person like that is French Montana. French Montana don't miss musically, even though no one will ever say French Montana is one of the best, or he doesn't miss musically because his business acumen is so well, and that's what's missing these days. This the having the business acumen can not only get you more money, but it can keep a lot of these artists alive and out of jail because they missing that business acumen. Yeah, facts. How you say you want to have a brand deal, but you're doing things to tarnish your brand? How you want a Nike deal, but you want to be waving guns in your videos and stuff, you're literally scaring money away. Yeah, like make it make sense.
SPEAKER_06If you was a you being that's your next lane, what would what kind of artists would you want and what kind of what would you be the game that you give to your artists?
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SPEAKER_06Like what what would you put your artists through?
SPEAKER_03So, number one, I want someone that's their art is really in them, it's not on them. So they're not trying to sell me on nothing, they're just literally telling me who they are, and I can see the vision based on how they present themselves and how they tell me who they are. Um, I'm not biased. The one thing I will say is I don't want anything that I can't put my brand behind because I'm not finna tarnish my brand just trying to help you. I don't want a dollar that bad. Like prime example, this may be a little controversial, but so what? Clip it up, let's talk about it. I don't want no drill artists under my under my agency or my roster. I don't because I like the music and I support what them young brothers are trying to do, as such as finding an avenue to get out, but the things that come with that are just so negative that I don't want to be a part of it. I think about it this way: like, I don't want to be a manager to where someone running up on me because you and some real street beef or whatever. Like, that's not that's not what I'm trying to do. I handle my own candle. If I got my own issues, let that be my own issues. But I'm not looking for the next King Vaughn. I don't want the next, you know, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not recipes to King Vaughn, no disrespect at all. But you know, I don't want those type of artists because I don't want what comes with that. A lot of people don't know uh King Vaughn's manager was shot. You know what I'm saying? He ain't die, thank God, but he was shot. Look at look at look at you know, even though uh I supported Mug 3 and I was a fan of his music, but the type of energy that he put out that caused you know Rainwater to you know get in some troubles along the way and stuff like that. So with me thinking about the brand and the business, you know, I don't want to have that. I want to I'm looking for talents like Juice Worlds and stuff like that. I'm looking for uh you know, Ken Demands, I'm looking for um, you know, Ed Sheeran's, you know, I'm looking for Ian's, I'm looking for, you know, even if even if you are a street artist, I'm okay with that, but it's about how you present yourself and how you carry yourself. Like, like Sauce Walker, he uh he a street artist. He may say and do whatever, but how he presents his stuff, he's very relatable to where you feel comfortable being around what they got going on. Or someone like Chief Keith. Yeah, he's from where he's from, but he don't walk around with that. So you okay with being around someone like that, you know? But yeah, I'm you know, I'm for music-wise, I want all type of talent. I want to find um, you know, the next Allison the Glass Lake House, the next Belinda Carlisle. I want to find like, let's get this new wave of people going, you know?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, most definitely.
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SPEAKER_03Okay, so I even want to find a red hot chili peppers, you know what I'm saying? I'm a red hot, yeah. Hey, you feel me? I want to find a new pen and get the disco, a new maroon five. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? The whole, you know, whole nine. Shout out Brandon Urie, man. You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_06That's a um, I kind of like all that like that had a special wave for it. Um, okay. So we like I said, we're gonna finish playing this game and we're gonna get the hell out of here. Let's do it, yeah. Okay. Five albums that says, okay, this is the story of my life, Brandon. Brandon Gilmore. The story of my life. These are the five albums that is near and dear to my heart. I could go on a road trip to Houston, Texas, from Vegas, listening to over and over from front to back, back to front. Pause.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so um the riding dirty UGK album, number one. Um The Let's Get Lifted album from John Legend. His first album that's get lifted album. Um I'm gonna probably have to have like a compilation tape of like a compilation tape of like James Brown music, because he's got too many albums, and I can't just make one and I ain't gonna cheat myself like that. Um the Clark Sisters, the Clark Sisters. I gotta have Hello, I gotta have a compilation of that album, cause sometimes when that road gets hard and the faith gets a little shaky, I gotta hear some Clark Sisters. So definitely some Clark Sisters. And then the last one. I'ma need um I'm gonna need like a get money tape. So just like a tape full of people that just motivate me. So like I'ma need like a couple couple Dolph songs on there, I'm gonna need a couple uh ESTG songs, I'ma need a bunch of Sauce Walker songs on there, just uh, you know, like the motivation songs and stuff like that, you know.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Now, five movies that that's five movies. Are you a movie person?
SPEAKER_03For sure, for sure, for sure. So five movies that just say me. So my favorite movie is Mulan. I love Mulan. I'm talking about the original Disney one, not the other, nah, nah, nah. The original Disney Mulan.
SPEAKER_06You had the Mulan little doll and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Nah, see, I was just asking. I was just asking. Nah, nah, there you go, bro. You're mine.
SPEAKER_06No, no, so you remember when the tape came out, it came with like one of those little Yeah, but uh nah, nah.
SPEAKER_03I was like, I was just asking. I just like the movie, man. Like the movie. Um outside of that one, I'm gonna probably say uh state property.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03State property. Outside of state property, belly. I'm gonna take it back. Belly then state property. Belly then state property. All right. Um 300, the Warriors and the Notebook.
SPEAKER_06Brandon, you know what you just told me. What you told me that somewhere in your life you had a culture shock somewhere. I'm trying to be PC right now, right? And be good. It's like, but you told me that you had a culture shock and somewhere, somewhere in there, yeah. You went from Mulan to the notebook in between some gutta gutta stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_06I mean, that's why I said, like, I'm also you a Japanese fighting romantic dude.
SPEAKER_03But get still, you know what I'm saying, get on there when I meet you.
SPEAKER_06So you yeah, you samurai Negro. Yeah, yeah, Bushido Brown, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_06You know, you're gonna go for long rocks in the park and shashing some stuff, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man. You know, I I actually like that colors of the wind song on that Pocahontas joint, too. You know what I'm saying? But that's your favorite song, not in my favorite, but it's you know, it's in there. It ain't my favorite, you know. But if you listen to the lyrics of what she's saying, she's saying some real stuff in the movie Apocalypto. Yeah, man. When I grew up, Disney was in this. I'm talking about real Disney Kid, like when they were doing the when they had the little one.
SPEAKER_06You look like you could have probably been on Gilla Gilla Island.
SPEAKER_03You feel me? I'm talking about uh what's that boy, Phil Diffie, Hillary Duff, Lizzie McGuire show.
SPEAKER_06You watch Big uh Bear in the Big Blue House?
SPEAKER_03I was a gangster. I ain't I ain't I ain't I ain't watched that.
SPEAKER_06I'm telling you, though. I'm pretty sure he was on Gulla Gullah Island.
SPEAKER_02Nah, nah, real nineties baby. I'm talking uh Molly in the big comfy couch, okay, Lil Bill. Okay, you know what I'm saying? I know little Bill uh Reading Rainbow. You feel me? You don't know about no reading rainbow.
SPEAKER_06I bet you was on the magic school bus, though.
SPEAKER_02Come on now. Come on now. You know I was on the magic school bus.
SPEAKER_03You know, you know that. Literally, land of the little times, land four times, all that stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06You know, we had a never mind. I'm gonna shut up. We had a parent that was on dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, here we go. All right, you know where you're going. That's your problem, man. That's your problem, man. Always talk about somebody, man.
SPEAKER_06It is what it is.
Five Pieces Of Game And Shout Outs
SPEAKER_06Oh man. Okay, so give the viewers five pieces of Brandon's game. This is some game that you want to leave them with. And then shout out all your shout-outs and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03Uh, first and foremost, uh be yourself. Don't never be somebody that you're not. So you if you knew you grew up in the church, don't be out here, you know, trying to slide in the demon knowing you're a Christian. So you know, don't be doing none of that. Um, number two, no matter what it is, have a plan. Because in life, if you don't have a plan, it's gonna get real rocky, it's gonna get real hard. So have a plan. Number three, have a good support system around you. Have people who you trust, people who can uplift you during those times when you need. Number four, always maintain your focus slash discipline. So if you know there's goals that you want to reach, do something to work on those goals every single day, no matter what obstacles may come about. Like prime example. Uh, true story. I literally just got hit by a car the other day. I'm I'm getting off, I'm getting off work and uh a car, a car hit me and things and stuff like that. And we already had this already scheduled out in the works and stuff. And I was just like, man, you know, despite whatever happened in that, I'm not gonna let that knock me off my focus or my plan to where I'm trying to be. So I still make sure that you know I had this taken care of regardless. Like, I was on top of this so much. When you reached out to me, I gave you my personal number, not even my manager's number. Shout out, see at the manager, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I gave you my personal number just because I was really, really ready. And then um, lastly, enjoy the small things. Well, enjoy the things in life that matters to you. So, like, I'm real big on family. So I try to make sure that like I take time and spend time with my family because at the end of the day, I could do all the things that I do. Um, I'm always I'm always traveling, I'm always doing all type of things. I could do all these things, but I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing this for my family. I want to leave things behind for my family and stuff. I want them to be able to have businesses or just the resources to do whatever that they want to do in life. If this was just about me, I probably would have tried to be a rapper. Now I'm playing. Now I'm playing, but yeah, nah, it's uh, you know, never been about me. And um, yeah, them the five things I want people to people to know to leave with. And uh last year, as far as as far as my shout outs, uh first, first, most importantly, thank you for reaching out and stuff like that and have me on your platform. Uh you don't notice, but I've been a huge fan for quite some time. So you know what I'm saying? Appreciate you. This is like, you know, this is like me getting my little 15 minutes right now. So, you know, I appreciate that. Yeah, you mother, get it right. You know, appreciate that. Uh uh shout out to Lee, my brother all the way in Japan right now. Shout out to my brother, you know, fighting for our freedoms. Appreciate that. Uh, shout out to all my people back in Houston, shout out to all my family. Um stay tuned to uh shout out my boy Big Bub coming on the way. He got some things going on in his side, you know, very young uh underground Houston Street Legend that's about to come out. So, you know, y'all watch out for that and stuff like that. And um, yeah, shout out to the 1% family. 1% to my 1% family, you know. You know what I'm saying? Where you, hey, where the real ball is at, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy Tone, you know, yeah, man, my boy Dave, everybody, man. Marcel.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Hey man.
SPEAKER_06You know, that's uh that's uh that's an interesting family, you know. Uh and they dysfunction them, but you know, it's uh it is what it is. What is uh family without a little bit of dysfunction, right? Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, one more can forget my boy Timmy C. Shout out to my boy Timmy C.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Is it hard? Like, this is the last question I have real quick. Is it hard dating doing all this stuff and business and all this stuff?
SPEAKER_03Is it hard? Nah, man. Um, you know, I got special lady in my life, you know. We ain't gonna we ain't gonna speak on that too much, but I got a special lady in my life. Uh nah, um, you know, uh, yeah, for for for real. Shout out to her. Nah, um, she keeps me focused and stuff like that and stuff. So like, nah, man, it's not hard. I think it just depends on like it depends on who you are. Like, if I wanted to be this like example, like I never wanted to be the spotlight, a hundred cars, 50 girls. I never wanted to be that type of guy. So like just because I'm around those things, it doesn't influence me or it don't move me. Like, like, you know, I'm still going to church and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So that you like, like, that stuff don't, you know what I'm saying? And you know, I'm not um now had I was like real young and naive and my script wasn't right, and I was a lustful young man, for sure, for sure. This lifestyle probably would have took me over because man, I'd have seen stuff at 18, 19 that people don't even see today. He needs some coiling water, you know what I'm saying? So nah, it for sure would have took me under had I got exposed to certain things at that time, but nah, I've had the ability to learn and mature and go through real life things. So nah, this stuff don't faze me, man.
SPEAKER_06That's
Dating Perspective And Closing
SPEAKER_06good. And on that note, man, shout out to everybody. Uh, you know, elevated talks, the elevated one network thing. You know, you guys gotta, we always have to shout out the studio. You got to. No, you know, because where can you get this quality from? Like, I'll just be honest. Like, you know, uh, Outbox Media, man, where can you get this?
SPEAKER_03Shout out to Outbox Media for having me elevated talks. It's like we was just saying, people don't know if you don't know the people behind the scenes that's making all the things go. Like, what good is it knowing the captain if you don't know who driving the ship, man? You feel me? You feel me? What good is it knowing the what good is it knowing the flight attendant if you don't know the pilot? Yeah, you know, you gotta know who really making stuff go, man.
SPEAKER_06You know, make things shake and move, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Shout out Outbox Outbox Media again, man. And wherever you are here in Vegas, hey, this is the place to be, man. Elevator talks.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah. And on that note, we out.
SPEAKER_01I don't taste what they do. I just turned it to stay fake.
