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Choose Integrity Or Insecurity: The Legacy You Leave
Bright lights can hide a lot of darkness. We sit with David Moore (Mooregainz) to pull back the curtain on growing up in Las Vegas, losing his father young, and learning fast that integrity is the only currency that spends everywhere. Football became his sanctuary, coaching turned into a calling, and therapy gave him the language to lead at home without burning himself down. If you’ve ever felt alone while surrounded by people, this conversation will feel like oxygen.
We walk through the beautiful and brutal parts of youth sports: sideline chaos, politics, and parents who can sink a season as fast as talent can save it. Dave shares how he keeps standards simple and non-negotiable—no lying, no stealing, full accountability—and why coaching the youngest kids is sacred work. He lays out how a team collapses when coaches aren’t aligned and how a real relationship with parents keeps home talk from canceling practice lessons. The message to men lands hard: a male does what feels right; a man does what is right.
From there, we pivot into healing. Dave explains the moment a therapist helped him see the unhealed 14-year-old driving adult reactions, and how letting brothers in—cigar-lounge talks, real check-ins—keeps his frequency high. We get into his More Gains journey, from being told he wouldn’t make it to placing nationally in bodybuilding. It’s not vanity; it’s visibility, showing discipline you can borrow. We shout out We In The Kitchen, his wife’s soul-forward food truck that honors her mother’s legacy, and Not Your Average, the podcast where four men trade bravado for truth. The takeaways are practical: build systems, set standards, embrace failure, and choose integrity over insecurity so your kids can make the right path even better.
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SPEAKER_05:Elevator talks in this thing. You got your boy stand out in the building. I got a special guest. We finally got it cracking in this thing. Look, we got my boy Dave. We let me give him a proper introduction. We got coach Dave, husband Dave, Dad Dave, Dad, a little Trey Trey, the rapper, Trey Mo in the building. Shout out to Big Unk, too, because that's his name as well. But yeah, we got football player, former football player. Um and I don't want to say journeyman, but we're gonna say tradesman. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because you're not a journeyman. You're you know, you have many trades. For sure. You know, a man, not a male. Motherfucking David Moore. What's going on?
SPEAKER_03:Man, thanks for having me, bro. Appreciate it, man. It's grateful to be here, bro. Thanks for coming. Let me invite me into your show, bro. It's a lot. It means a lot.
SPEAKER_05:Dog, this interview is long overdue. For sure. We've been planning it, but you know, timing when people get busy and stuff like that. Kids, family, kids, family. Life. We both doing kids shit all day today. And then life was previous weeks. Facts. Let's get let's get on to the the kids shit. We're not gonna go to your kids. Let's go back to when you're from Vegas, right? Born and raised. Born and raised in Vegas. Uh tell us how how that was.
SPEAKER_03:Born to being born and raised in Vegas, man. Um I I would say you will you um life hits you a little faster than if I was saved anywhere else. This is me. I play college, Minnesota. I seen how they how they move and create how we move out here in Vegas. It's it's very things are kind of spoon fitching like slowly out there. Uh out here in Vegas, it's right now. You know what I mean? Right now, it's yeah, it's getting hit to you. So um it's either um either either either fail or succeed. You know what I mean? I've seen a lot of people I grew up with, man, um, they fail. A lot of couple people succeed, you know what I mean? Feeling out here is it's the bottom, ain't no middles. Bottom or you're gonna be at the top, you know what I mean. So it's it's it's different out here. I think and then growing up out here, I know the ins and outs. I know how easy it is to fall into that category, either you're six feet, six feet deep or in prison. So me raising my boys is very important that I'm very transparent with them. Let them know what one little mistake, you being emotional, not controlling your emotions, can cost you to be 30s in prison or free in life. You know what I mean? So it's important to really in Vegas growing up to really understand what's monopoly money and what's real money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that's the whole thing. I think growing up in here is when it was fake and was real, you know.
SPEAKER_05:I think uh a lot of people they think that Vegas just sits and and giggles and or whatever. And um, you know, they see the bright lights and Gorman and this, but they don't they don't see the other side of Vegas. You know what I'm saying? They don't see, you know, everybody they want to be. I say Vegas is a place where everybody wants to be the same person. Yeah. Or if you and if you're a rebel, uh no pun intended, but if you're a rebel, then uh then you're an outcast. Or they look at you like, oh, you you're not a P. Yeah, you don't see you square. So you went to Cheyenne High, right? The town, yep. And at that time, back in the day, Cheyenne was that was one of those schools. Yeah, the crop you was fine. A lot of athletes that went there. Yeah. A lot of people that I know that's uh hustlers and for sure. That's true, you know, in the you know, street dudes and girls, you know what I'm saying? A lot of a lot of people that I know that that's that's with the shits. For sure. For sure. You went to uh at that time they say they used to call Cheyenne when I first moved out here like the belly of the beast. That's when the schools is like the belly of the beast.
SPEAKER_03:Man, yeah, you gotta come in, hey, bring your lunchbox, you know what I mean? A metaphor, but make sure you don't in P's and Q's when you get there. You gotta understand what's gonna happen either day.
SPEAKER_05:So would you say going to Cheyenne is what kind of like shaped you? Or would you say like other shit before that?
SPEAKER_03:I I would say my life I was the life like to me, like the life I was going through, though my uh my mom, my dad passed um when I was young, my mom's going through she had to go through me and being uh me having to really take on that fatherhood role and provide for my family at a young age. I was Cheyenne was like it was kind of like my safe zone. It was not like to everybody else's kind of rough, but for me it was kind of a not really less that rough because it's kind of like I can take a step back a little bit. Because outside the school was it was it was the nitty-gritty I had to get to it, you know what I mean? So I think the Cheyenne was more of I seen I seen people that had so much more than me and they were complaining about it, and I put perspective in my head, like man, I don't think if they only knew what I was going through. You know what I mean? So I held a lot of stuff in, but now that I'm older now, I can instead of me holding in, people need to hear what the stuff you're going through because that can get respected on like they're going through, you know what I mean, helping you out in life right now. So I think Cheyenne is what I needed. I think it um it fit into my life. I I was I felt at home, I felt um I can I can be around people and they're not gonna judge me type thing, you know what I mean? They was in the same boat with me from the hood, you know what I mean? So I think that helps me out a lot. I didn't have to put on a mask as much as I I needed to, if that makes sense. So your your dad, you said, passed away.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. He went to Normine, Norbine High School, which is a rival. So yeah, yeah, yeah. In LA, Normine High School, yes. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I went to Carson, yeah, and he and Norbond was like our rival. Like one of our rivals and shit. Yeah. So um, at that time when I was going there, Norbine was up and coming, but they was always that that team to watch out for. They beat us, they beat us for sure. Um, and um then after I got out of high school and shit, they they was smacking shit. Yeah, and now they kind of dealing with it, they keep on getting hit with different violations and shit like that. Like I just seen one last year, Christmas. Yeah, yeah, they had to forfeit their whole season, basically. Um and so uh, yeah, so like just um just having your dad. Like I seen pictures of him and say that I'm like, damn, okay, so he was uh running back. Yep, yep. And then you play running back. Yep, yeah. So that's what we always wanted you for you to do. That's what you always wanted to do was play running back because it was after your dad, or you just happened to fall into it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, honestly, bro, um so crazy. Uh so dad passed on five, right? So he didn't even get a chance to really help me in the football journey. You know what I mean? I just kind of remember seeing things and going off with people's uh old stories. I was a big ass kid. So uh I think I five years old, I was like 105 pounds. So god damn, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So running back was a big man, man. Yeah, so five years old, 105 pounds. So running back wasn't really in the in the in the card at that at first was in the cards. So um, but I like playing, you know. I mean, I and then uh the coaches I had, I always looking for that mill, that that man figure, right? So all the coaches I looked up, looked up to him as as a father figure. So I just enjoy football. I know my dad loved it, so I loved it and I really entrusted myself into it, and all the pain I felt from not being there, I put that pain on the field, you know what I mean? So it was just that and that. As I got older, um, I as I got off the eighth grade, I was like, I want to run the ball. And then, you know, and went from there. From me running the ball, they call me the bus, a big running back, this bruiser, and then went from there, man. That's what happened.
SPEAKER_05:And it's like like you, you, you got you got size and shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know how hard it is. Like I you know, I play defense in and linebacker. Yeah. You know how hard it is to try to like get low and tackle somebody that's went running with fucking steam coming downhill. Yeah, look, man. And I'm a cheater. So like if I if I had to play against like a I played against a running back like you and that motherfucker, I ain't gonna lie. Like, he we we beat his team, yeah, but he cleaned my clock one time. Yeah. And I was like, yo, man, what the fuck? Like, I ain't never like I had because I had to get real low. Yeah. And when he hit me, like back then it wasn't concussion protocols, but I think I got a concussion from that shot. I started seeing a little bit, my head, my hair got a little light, and I was like, oh shit. You know what I'm saying? But I can't I can't go out like a little bitch, you know what I'm saying? So of course, you know, I'm a warrior. Yeah, I had to stand on business and shit, but like in reality, in my head, in the back of my head, I'm like, this is gonna be a long ass game, bro.
SPEAKER_03:Everything I felt, anything I was going through, bro, I tried to I try to put it on the field, but everything I was going through, bro. Everybody sees me outside the field, like oh, he's always a happy guy, but I was fighting, I was fighting demons, you know what I mean? And that field was my um my release point, you know what I mean? I can release on that field, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:And let's stay there because you know you coach, I coach. Yeah. And um, you know, as we can kind of take a step back, we kind of see that shit with some of these kids. Like, this is like their outlets. Look, shit, this our team this year. For sure, bro. Um, it was a lot of kids that had a lot of life problems outside of and they know they're young, you know, and they and then they have a lot of life problems and stuff. And so um, like what was your what made you start coaching?
SPEAKER_03:What like like really made you want to man what honestly, bro? Um I started coaching because I I felt my purpose was to be that guy in light to kids that I I I got growing up without the father, you know what I mean? But I think my my turning point really, what I really I really knew my call it was to coach and to mentor kids was um I think I had the I had the green machine and it was like maybe seven or eight, I can't remember what it was. At the time I had an Impala sitting on 22, you know, ice call, right? So kids. Uh I think it was it was 05. It wasn't the old long body, it was 05, but it's custom Texas Orange Road cut.
SPEAKER_05:Mine was in that fire though. It was crazy.
SPEAKER_03:It was crazy, bro. It was fire. So when kids see that, they only they're gonna repeat what they see on TV. So first thing the kids said to me, Oh coach, you a pee? The fuck? Like kind of bothered me. I'm like, I'm gonna pee. So it kind of threw me off. I'm like, nah. And then he's like, Are you selling drugs? I'm like, nah. But he would, they were saying it, they're seven or eight. They're not saying it in a place of mouth, they're just saying it because they really think that's what they see. Yeah, it's on TV. So I had to take a lap, and they came back taking a lap, and they was like, uh, I was like, Y'all take y'all take a knee. Took a knee. I'm like, um, if y'all think coach is a P, raise y'all hand. They raised my hand. Well, half of them raised their hand, whatever. If I think coach sell drugs, raise your hand. Raise their hand. I'm like, coach electrician. He's like, What's what's that, coach? I'm like, that's that's what gets you gives you power, lights. You turn, you you plug in your your tablets, plug in your phones. I provide power. That that's that. Like, wow, you make money like that. You got that car? I'm like, yeah, I make good money, I work on my hands. Like, and then at seven years, like, can I do that? Absolutely you can. If I can do it, you can do it. Yeah, that from that point on, that's I knew that was my calling. Either it was coaching kids or mentoring. Mentoring and coaching is the same thing. Yeah. I mean, either you're on the field or not. But I really believe, or I believe, sports is a direct correlation to life, especially football, because you're gonna get hit, you're gonna fall, you're gonna get, you're not gonna be the biggest guy, you're not gonna be the strongest guy. So you're gonna get ran over sometimes. But it depends on how you're gonna get up and keep it up and keep them competing. You can stay on the ground and fold or get up and compete. That that is the that's that's the sports is the easiest way to try to um correlate life into real into real life scenarios, you know what I mean? Because it's still sports, so you still got a chance to get up, you didn't get injured. But if you feel in life, it's a different type of uh category. You feel in life, house getting taken from you, evicted, uh power getting off, but in sports, you can let you in you know what I'm saying? So that's why I think coaching is so important because I really genuinely care about these kids. Especially the baby, I I the baby coach sticks to you, right? That's different. They there, their mind is so fragile, but at the same time, it's it's they're so um impressionable. So whatever they they've they love you, they care about you, they truly go listen to everything you say. Yeah, they run through a wall for you. You say, hey man, go jump off the jump off the steel and for in 20 flights up. Okay, coach. But you don't want them to do that, but you at the same time, you want to guide them in the right, right direction. That finish gotta be strong. So that's something big in coach. I love coaching, bro.
SPEAKER_05:And yeah, that's I think uh coaching is one of the things I kind of had a call on to do as well. Yeah, it's just this simple fact that like every year is my last year. Uh because like this shit, like the politics around it is a fucking headache.
SPEAKER_03:Man, that's the only bad part, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Even even this year with our team, it's like, oh my, dude, we almost like look, the lurk is look. They call the referees, they had a group chat, and you know, I know I know a lot of referees, yeah, and they said, This what you guys was the most penalized. We had one game where we had the most penalties in coaching, I mean in in in uh in fucking history of six you. Makes no sense, bro. They say your coaches was wild, your boys was wild, your boys is crashing out. They say, Yeah, the crash outs. I said, Holy shit.
SPEAKER_03:And that's horrible, bro. Like, that's that's so bad. Cause because the kids are only doing what they see. You feel me? Like, that's not all the coaches going crazy, it's just certain few, and kids feed off certain few, you know what I mean? So that's what bothered me the most. That's the only thing that bothered the most when it comes to coaching. Like, the people you coach with, you have to be on the same page because you're gonna literally gonna you're gonna self-implode the whole team. You know what I mean? Luckily, you know, we had some strong minds and we had enough kids that was that was very talented at the same time listening to listen to certain people and be able to overcome certain certain obstacles. But we were going through so much inner turmoil that really didn't make sense while we were going through. We're the best team. It made no sense.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and it's crazy because when I take a step back and I look at it, like, I want to say this has been one of the wildest fucking years of my life.
SPEAKER_03:That's hands down, bit of wild.
SPEAKER_05:Because before that, before we even played the game, yeah, you know, I had this shit with the other team that I had where I had haters hating, yeah, you know, trying to do shit on the on the on the low. Right. You know, and I'm like, dog, that's you're a male. Like, in words of Dave, you a male. Like, like you doing whole shit, yeah, and you don't think that I'm fighting now. And then you and then you're talking to people, and I'm like, look, this city, this town, this sport is too small. It's big, but it's small at the same time. Like, shit gets back to me. I'm seeing shit, and people's throwing you under the bus or shit. Right. And then we get the shit, we got we play one game, the kids, they they they got a real taste of football. They we play the tournament, and you know, everybody every dad wants to be a coach.
SPEAKER_03:Every every billion coaches, a billion coaches.
SPEAKER_05:You know, that's why I hate coaching or playing that field where the parents are right on the sideline. Where they're on the sideline with you. If you're back, if it's nothing that if it's just a little fence or something or some rope or whatever, and they're right there, they got access, they want to talk to their fucking kid, they want to talk to their kid, they wanna, they want to tell you plays, they wanna they want to yell shit at the refs, and now the refs is thinking, okay, well, this is your team, so they with you. Exactly. I'm gonna I'm not gonna call this play, or I'm gonna call this play. You know what I'm saying? Or then you got people that might be too close and they might say something about their kid, and then they get to arguing and fighting on the sidelines. I done been through all that shit. And it's like, so we go to that tournament, and then we got two players quit. You know, we we get we get people like, oh yeah, scared to play this. We're not scared to play this team, but we see what's going on. Okay, boom. And um and then the season comes. Boom, like we having a good season, you know. Our boys are finally, every it seemed like every game they're progressing, they're starting to figure it out. Right. Like they're getting the courage now and stuff, and then us as coaches, we just boom. Clashing.
SPEAKER_03:And then Clashing.
SPEAKER_05:It's funny um because uh shout out to my boy Tom. Like me and Tom, we never clashed at any point. Right. So like you know, we all calling each other like everybody was mad at somebody for something, yeah. And so we all calling each other, yeah, and it's like I'm like, damn, like how did we get here off of a game where the coaches is crashing out and shit? Right. So then, you know, as time goes, now we gotta deal with parents, and you know, you know, this kid wants more playing time, or we being too aggressive with this kid, or this kid don't, this parent don't agree with this, or this kid, or this parent wants this kid to be the superstar of the team and shit like that. And then and I always say most of the times it's not even the moms, it's the dads that try to live through their fucking sons and shit.
SPEAKER_03:It's not always well, most most I've I've seen this, I've seen that happen on every team I've been on. Um, dad was never good, wasn't good at all. But someone got a little got a little smunk to him. But I've always coached the babies. All of coach six through nine, that's my age. I like them ages. Those are the ages that like just they're um they're so impressionable that you still can mold them. They they love the game football. Those my those are my groups I like. So six through nine, they're babies. They're babies, bro. Still babies, yeah. But they always got this, always always wanted to. The daddy was trash, trash in high school, but son got a little spunk to him. Yeah, and then they try to they try to live through that kid. And that's just so whack to me, man. Because again, back to the being of males and men, bro. Like a male, it feels good to lift your kid. It feels good. But as a man, that's this a man does what is right. You know, a male does what feels right, a man does what is right. As a man, you're not you're not trying to live through a child, you're trying to make sure that child makes the best impression of itself, be the best person of itself, be the best legacy for you. That's your that's your legacy. Not you're not reliving your legacy over and trying to do it again. Ain't no redoes in life. Yeah, there's no redoes in life. That kid is making his own path in life, your guys to guide him to be the best he can be. Not the best you could have been. That's weird to me, bro. I've never understood that weirdo shit, bro. I've never understood that shit. Even my little brother, my little brother, three years younger than me. And they had people act like, yo, y'all had like Sylvan Rivera? I said, Hell no. I've never had that. I always want to be better than me. Like, what how can you say that? Like, that's my baby brother. If he's better than me, he's gonna make it make it far. You know what I mean? I was good. He can be better than me, even better than me. My kid is better than me. They're gonna be, you know what I'm saying? Like, you want the next person behind you to be better than you. That's the worst thing. I think that's a lot of people in our community too. We don't, we're scared to make we're scared to uh dip our hats to um light somebody else's candle. You don't want the counter lit, because then if you think they count a lit, it'll take away from your light. It's the same light. It's making everybody everything around you more brighter. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:I think we got like an insecure uh insecurity complex. For sure. Where like uh the crab, they say a crab in a barrel, but I go um further than that, where we're we're insecure that somebody's gonna take us off our place, somebody's gonna take our woman, somebody's gonna take this. And that's what this that's the whole reason why I kind of got this podcast now, where I shifted it to is like, okay, sometimes women think that I'm talking about them. Yeah. I'm like, no, choose X, Y, and Z. You got this type of value, so utilize that value and per and uh preserve that value. And then on the flip side, I'm like, man, this is what we gotta do. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? If we're moving around like hoes, then or we got feminine energy, or if we not doing what we're supposed to do, like the weakest thing to me is like I I feel like if a man don't take care of his child or his children, um, then he's a sucker, right? Bro, straight. If a man don't try to elevate, he's a sucker. And relationships, you know, yeah. If you fucking are in a relationship and you're not trying to progress in that relationship, then that relationship is dead. Waste people waste of time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's a waste of time. You never get that back. Time is priceless, bro. Anything you do. I tell my kids too, I said, bro, I don't care what you do, I don't care if you flip quarters on the sidewalk, be the best at flipping quarters on the sidewalk. When the reason I say that is whatever you do in life, you do it, you do it at the best of your ability. You know what I'm saying? Because at the best of your ability, you never hold your hat back, oh, I wish I could do this. You never have you never have that um that that conscious, that guilty, that that thing in the back of your head, like, oh shit, did this, shit, that because you give it your all. Right. If you give it your all, you're ready to grow to the next thing. Now you now you you've um you came out of that, that you you've shared that cocoon, shared that that that skin. Now you're ready to grow into the new skin. You know what I mean? But if you all have that that that um that that that thought of doubt in the back of your hair still you're never gonna be able to grow fully to what you're supposed to be to next. So now you're blessed and you're supposed to get it's gonna be fully fulfilled because the last one you got, you didn't really make the best out of it. You know what I'm saying? So I'm big on this making the best. Do give it your all, bro. Don't I don't care if you lose or win or draw, give it your all. And then I go from there, you know.
SPEAKER_05:I um I I gotta agree a hundred percent with that because um, you know, just just me being frivolous and shit, you know, um, it's times where like I know in the back of my head when it c especially when it came to women and stuff like that, like I'm probably one of the best that they ever dealt with, but like, am I the best for them? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, or for her, like, you know, right. You get what I'm saying? But and so um, you know, I go through this thing where like I'm trying to elevate because uh, you know, inherently you're gonna elevate. If I elevate, I'm trying to always work on myself and shit. But then I had to take a step back and look at it like this, like if it's just me elevated, or is it this, or if it's us elevated, you know what I'm saying? And so um, you know, me being in in my ways and shit like that, I was only really thinking a lot of times about me because I'm taking care of situations, I'm making sure everybody feels good, whatever, whatever. Right, but I'm not being intentional. And I and the reason why I bring this up is because it's like now we gotta be more intentional, especially as men. Like, we have to have a strategy and be more intentional than then more now than never, you know what I'm saying? Because like like you said, we raising young men, you know, uh some young women. Yeah. Um we're we're we're doing things, um business, uh, sports. We're doing all these things so the next generation could see what the fuck we're doing so they could get inspired. Exactly. Have a step have a step ahead. But if we moving, if we move in the wrong way, then um that's only gonna reflect down to them. For sure. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:They're gonna They're gonna make it better.
SPEAKER_05:You know?
SPEAKER_03:Good or bad. So you move the wrong way, it's gonna make that wrong way better. Yeah. You move the wrong way, you move the right way, they're gonna make that right way better. So whatever you do, they're gonna make it better. Yeah. Good or bad. So you you pick or choose that you as the as the head of your household, you're gonna pick or choose which direction your family supposed to go to. You feel what I'm saying? So they you can make it good, they're gonna make it better. Yeah, make it bad, they're gonna make that better too. They're gonna figure out a way to make it, oh, I can do a little more, I can do, I can get away with this. I can, you know what I mean? So you want to put down foundation, well, your foundation in my household is integrity, bro. I cannot. Uh I tell my boys, a liar and a thief is lower than well shit. You're lower than well shit to me. You do not lie, we don't steal, bro. Yeah, okay. Do not lie to me, bro. Do not lie to me, bro. Because I'm gonna find out you're gonna find out anyway. It's gonna be two times worse. Do not lie to me, bro. And don't, don't steal, bro. Work for everybody work hard for this. I said, What's somebody stolen for me? I work my ass off to get whatever I got. You think you be cool with that shit? I'm like, and I say, I'm not, when I tell them that it's Lord and Welsh, I said, What's the deep deepest place in the in the world? And they'd be like, the ocean. Okay, so when the well ticket shit, it goes to the ocean. That's the deepest part in the ocean. I mean, you're lower than worship. I mean, you're the you're the bottom of the bottom. I don't want to be around you. You don't want nobody want to be around you. So you gotta take that accountability when you're never doing anything in life. Integrity is the number one thing. Your name is your name will write you a golden ticket. I've been around people that are I'm electricians, like I said, right? That's shitty wiremen. This is not good, not good craftsmen, but good people, good person, great person. So they kept staying, they stay around, they stay around. Yeah, their vibe is good, they they move on from this good person, good people, and they stay around. And you're your like your name will write tickets, your name will write tickets for you uh in faster than anything you've ever done physically. Facts. You know what I'm saying? The or you bring somebody, man, I love him, Dave Coran. I love him Terry's come around. He's bringing the parties. I feel so at ease. I feel good, I feel um, I feel motivated, feel by myself. So that that's really big to the boys. Don't don't be, don't, don't, um, don't try to be somebody you're not, but at the same time, treat people how you want to be treated. And just be happy. Yeah, you know what I mean? Best you can.
SPEAKER_05:You know what's funny is like um how you talk is how you coach. Yeah, you're real melodic and shit. Yeah, yeah. So um, what would be would you you would say would be one of your greatest assets of coaching? Man, my passion is let's let's do three. Let's do three. Three or let's have fun.
SPEAKER_03:I say my passion. My passion, um the passion, I said passion is one. Um the way I can paint a picture is to I guess explain, right? Teaching, but passion teaching. And then my last one is passion teaching. My last one I would say is accountability.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Accountability. I'm a they they can, they can, they can any kind of coach can say that if coach day was wrong, he will admit he was wrong. 100%. Okay. And that's that's that's I'm I'm gonna admit it, I can't, I'm accountable. Hey, no, you was right. I think it happened this year. I think CJ, my little run back, CJ, uh, this did a did a play or something. I'm like, bro, what did you do? What the heck was that? He's like, nah, coach, you said this. What's that? I'm like, you did it again. I'm like, hey, CJ, you was right. Oh, I told you, Coach. I'm like, oh, you was right. You know what I mean? So it's vulnerability, so they know that it's not a dictatorship. Even though I have authority over my showing how to do stuff, at the same time, I'm still growing too, growing with y'all. Y'all six, I'm 36. I'm still growing with y'all. That's how you keep growing. Yeah. I think that's what I think that's why I resonate so much with the kids. I've coached, even the past years, um, they remember who I am because they can be themselves. They ain't gotta worry about oh if I mess up me, he's gonna he's gonna never play me again, never be around me again, never wanna, you don't, he don't want to be around me. No, bro. You're supposed to mess up. Yeah. If failure is the avenue of success. In order to succeed, you gotta know how to fail first. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:But you know, a lot of times their parents is the one that fucked them up. For sure. Because like we might give them a little bit more grace. Yeah. Like you said, like, you know, we you're supposed to fail as learning lessons, just like life, right? For sure. Um, and same thing with like my coaching style. I'm like, okay, that's cool that you messed up. Yeah. I'm not gonna hang my head over a mess up, even if it costs us the game, right? Yeah. But now I expect for you to fix that mess up and do two times better. For sure. Right. So, but then you have the parent that's like, ah, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're incentivizing them to do this. That's the hard part. But then they get on them all this, like demoralize them if they don't do something right. So now they in their head and shit. And I'm like, bruh, like I'm trying to teach them not just football, but life lessons. Like the kids I start coaching, they're all 23, 24, 25 now. You know, married. Dude, I had one of my boys on here, Barber, everything, doing his thing. He was my quarterback. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I got another kid, he's track star. Uh, he just graduated from um um was it uh UC Fortune? You know, or Fortin. In Texas or California? California. Okay, okay, yeah. You know, and I got other kids in Hawaii, everywhere just, you know, that was that took football, but they always said, look, like football got a lot of life lessons. For sure. But then, but then at the same time, you got daddy that was wasn't shit probably, or moms that lived through her son or want her son to be the best, and then fucking they're just feeding them all this shit. Right. And I'm like, that's the hard part, man.
SPEAKER_03:I'd be like, fucking them up lessons. I be thinking like so much, man, I'd be like, like I be trying to make it as um, whenever I coach, I try to I try to get in tune and talk to the parents. Like some coaches don't want to talk to the parents, they want to talk to the kids only. But the reason I the reason being is I want the parents to see who I am. You know what I mean? Like, hey, and I and I try to make it a thing to tell the parents every time or often, hey, thank you for giving me the opportunity to coach a kid. Like I want I want you to understand, like, when they out here, he's my son. That's my child. I'm gonna take care of him, I'm gonna go to the back for him as my child. But thank you for the opportunity. And the reason I say that is I want them to understand that they ain't gotta um, what's the word, be overbearing, overtaking things might gonna hurt their child. Not with me, because I want to make sure they get the best out of them. But at the same time, I want them to see that the type of coach I am, like, oh man, I can, this kid, my son can learn something from him. I mean, I I don't I'm sometimes the parents say they learn something from me, which is cool, whatever. But I want them to understand, I want them to get the one-on-one connection. Like, hey, when I'm with your son, I got him. So I don't want you going home telling something different. Most parents, I think what happens is they don't have a relationship with the coach. So when the coach might say something to the kid, and the kid might go home to the mom or dad, like, hey, coach said this, and they don't know what the coach is, so they're like, oh, he's tripping. But if they know the coach, they know and they know where you're coming from. Like, oh no, he's right. You know what I mean? So it's still it's still the coaching you taught him at practice is going home and being transparent at home, too. But if you don't have a relationship with the parents, when you go home, it's getting washed away. You know what I mean? So I think it's important to have a race with the parents. Best you can. Sometimes it don't work, it don't always work, but just if you can, try to put that best foot forward, you know what I mean? It's for the kids' sake. I've everything for the kids say I try to do everything I can. I'll I'll bend over back for the kid because it's the kid, but they yeah, they're hard, they're um they're precious, you know what I mean? They're so un uh untamed, you know what I mean? It's so such a precious cargo. So that's why I'm real big on that part. The parents is the number one key. Kids gonna listen to what the parents are gonna say at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. You know, it's kind of funny because I I had this one parent, and um like I could tell, like the way that I kind of coached, he was trying to emulate because he wanted to be a coach or whatever. Okay, copy. And um, you know, I don't like coaching with a lot of coaches. So I that means I don't want the the parents to try to be a helper neither. Right. You know what I'm saying? Just do your job, get them to practice, get them to the games, right? Make sure you pay on time and fucking bring the snacks on your week that you gotta have snacks. You know what I'm saying? Like you could train your kid outside of outside of this football shit. But he tried to emulate what I was doing, and he couldn't quite do it. No, that's not him. So then it started bleeding over to his relationship with the mom and shit like that. I'm like, no, you're not organic. You know what I'm saying? This is this is fake. Like this is you know what I'm saying, you're trying to be like me. You're trying to, you trying to make a, you know, because everybody wants to, if shit don't go anywhere they want to make a team. Or they they, you know, it's like a church. You know, haven't you noticed like you got a hundred people in this one church, then you get one guy, he thinks that he can have his own church. So he takes 15 people from this church, bring them over to his church. Now it's a church like right around the corner from the original church, and then that that 15 people might turn to 30 people, and then three people from that church go and start a new church, you know, especially this is all in the hood, right? So if you go sure in every in every hood, if you go in the hood, it's always a liquor store almost on every corner, and there's a fucking church almost on every corner. But it's kind of funny, you know. I'm this is a side note, I'm going off on a tangent right now, but um it's funny because like we got a whole bunch of churches, but churches are set up like gangs. You know what I'm saying? Like if you think about it, so you got churches that represent this block or this corner or whatever, they got their their members. But I don't know if you're you know, I'm come from Gang Bang Central and shit Capitol, and so when you get inside a church, they have their own rules, right? You know what I'm saying? They got their own process. Like I never seen, you know, and I believe in God, I'm a God fair man and everything. Um I never seen so many different ways how to be a Christian. I might despise you be because of the type of Christian that you are, right? Or you might despise him because he's Baptist and you're this, and right he he don't like you because he's you know what I'm saying? Right. And I'm like, damn, like that's crazy. We all supposed to be the same car. We're supposed to be worshiping God. He's supposed to, and um, it's the same thing with sports, you know what I'm saying? It's like everything, I I kind of equate everything, even business. I I equate everything to like a gang. You know what I'm saying? You got, for example, you got your bloods, your crips. Right. But if you get a little bit deeper and further, I know Crips that don't like Crips because you got your deuces and your trays. They're Hoovers and 6-0. Yeah, 6-0 hoovers, all them, yeah, you know. Um, if you if you're a deuce, you don't you ain't fucking with a lot of trays. Right. You know what I'm saying? And then you get your, then you might not fuck with the the bloods. Then you also got um the Latin games or Hispanic games, and then you got the mob, then you got, you know what I'm saying? It's all tricky. Just fraction off. You know, the same thing with religion, same thing with business, same thing, all this shit ties into the same shit, you know what I'm saying? And it um, so I say that to say, how do you deal with being on a frequency that you're on?
SPEAKER_03:For me, bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro. This being on the frequency I'm on this year, it's been a tough year for me, bro. I ain't gonna go front, bro. I've been uh I felt alone a lot, bro. I felt alone a lot. Um not that's not necessarily I'm alone physically, but in my mind, your mind controls everything, yes, yes, yes. So it's I felt alone a lot because I'm I'm real big on I'm people get mad when I say this. I don't want to be a burden on nobody. Yeah, I'm the same way. Okay. I'm glad that we're here. I really see you happy, you happy, I'm happy. You feel me? I'm good, I'll I will be okay. But at the same time, we're human, bro. All them emotions you're um those past traumas you're you're you're um suppressing, they're really gonna come out. Okay, you know how much weights out lifting, how much big body is, it doesn't matter. It's gonna eventually come out. Whether you when either when you're a drunken sober or just a random night, you never know. Right. So we're gonna explode. So I think me with me being on the frequency I'm in, bro, this year, this year particularly, bro, I have I've had to uncover so many skeletons I've pushed in my in my in my in my closet and really um uh what's the word I'm looking for? Battle them, battle them head on. Like it's one-on-one with me. I have to go through this now in order for me to get to the next I need to go. I have to go through this because right now it's hindering me. So being a fruits I'm on this year has been a one that is just a growing year for myself. I'm usually always trying to put everybody first, and and I'm I'm cool to put everybody first, put everybody, but this has been a year in the fruits I'm on to where I have to put David first and really have to control what control what I'm going through in my life in order for my kids to have kids to be good, my wife to be good, for my household to be set and hard. So I'm sorry, set and firm. You know what I mean? Because I feel like with the fruits I've been on this year, my foundation, my household cracked in my marriage. Sometimes I feel like in my parents, I'm like, man, my being a good parent, my being a good, good man. And we have when as a man, for me at least, I'm big on being a man. I'm real, I'm big on being the head house. You can come to me, I got that. I'm gonna make sure everything's smooth. So this year I feel like I let my foundation crack, and that's because of uh the things I've been going through internally. So this this year, man, it's been a growth. The frequency I've been on, I don't think nobody can be on the frequency of me. This is my frequency. I have this is my frequency here. You know, I have to really elevate myself and and and um forgive myself for a lot of things. Things I'm holding on to stuff that only makes sense. Um I'll go through a therapist like a couple weeks ago. My wife did, and uh, she was like, um, she's like, when did things go crazy for you? When was when was um when did your life like you feel like hit rock bottom? She's like, when your dad passed, I'm like, nah, when he passed, you know, I was was hurt. You know what I mean? I was five. Yeah, but you're young. It didn't hit me until I turned eight and I started acting out. But it wasn't, it didn't really, it wasn't as bad until I think like I turned 14. 14, my mom, you know, went through her thing with, you know, with drugs like that, and and my dad was going. So that's when I think I hit rock bottom. That's when it was like, it was the craziest part. So she's just like, she's like, you ever you so she's like, so at that time when it happened, when all that time of 14, your emotions, your emotions were stunted. So right now, you're 36 years old, but when you act out or when you you when you have an emotional um um downfall, whatever going through you getting emotional, that whatever, you're you're sad, that's the 14 you coming out of you. That's not the 36 years you you've grown so much before that, but you've never ever in your life, you since you've since now you never ever look back to the 14 you 14-year-old you and giving that person grace until hey, it's okay. You know what I mean? So this is the year, this is the her saying that, but I've never thought I'm like, damn, I never thought about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's that's just how do you feel when you get all angry and scream and holler? How do you how old do you feel? How old do I feel? Who asked that? Yeah, that's you know what I mean. Like, weird-ass question. Fuck you. What do you mean? And then she went in detail, like, that's the 14 year. Think about that. That's the four-year-old. Yeah, man. What about hey, what's gonna look my eyes getting watery? I'm like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so if this has been a year, man, I want to grow, bro. I want the best for my kid, the best for my family, my wife. Um, so that that going through that and really taking uh um taking the steps forward for myself, it's been a year. This has been the frequency year for me for my my frequency.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I would think that uh shit this has been the craziest year of my life. And I asked I had a couple crazy years. Um so I try to operate only on high frequencies, I try to keep it high. Um but you know, because I see a therapist, I see two therapists once a week, the same day, just once a week. Um And you know the shit that went on with me, like, and I think about it um sometimes and shit. Um and I'm like, dude, like, you know, like at first my emotions was like not really emotions, but like how I felt, you know what I'm saying? I never I never felt so low and so um unlike myself before ever. Like never ever ever ever. Right, you know what I'm saying? So and I'm trying to push through with it, but then it's like you know, you um one good thing happened, then a blow happened. One good thing happened, yeah, and that was the story of this fucking year. Yeah, and so um, you know, when the last shit happened where I really had to sit down and think and shit like that, really start going to therapy, really start like locking into like my foundation and beliefs and um standing on shit and in my purpose. Um I started thinking, like, damn, I only could operate on one frequency and that's that high frequency. Like I can never ever, ever step down to a low frequency, even if I'm like, cause it's been times, even shit, a couple weeks ago, I was like depressed. I I just got depressed out of out of nowhere because I felt like I failed. Like I felt like a failure as a man, you know, because I'm used to, you know, I lost$7,000 with this whole transgression. You know what I'm saying? And so I'm you I'm used to just doing my shit woo woo woo. And um, you know, if something happens, either it's gonna get fixed or somebody else is gonna fix it for me if you're where I'm going, if you kind of see my Tokyo trip. For sure. And so this time is I I had to step back and realize there was so much more at play than me going to have, you know what I'm saying? You know, and so I had to really step, take a step back. So it hurts me because I'm so used to being in control. And so when I'm not in control, like things always go to shit. And so like now I'm feeling like I failed, bro. I failed, I felt empty, I felt lonely. I don't like bothering people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and it it really takes, you know, I could now that I'm glad that I got some of the boys because it like, for example, you would just text me, like, yo, you good, bro? Woo woo. For sure. My nigga told my, you know what I'm saying? Um, my boy Eve, my boy Danny, my unc, they'll text me, like, you good? You know what I'm saying, or give me a call real quick, check on me, and shit like that. And um, and I really realized I'm like, dude, like, I really gotta the people that I fuck with, I gotta hold them on a higher pedestal. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I always been like a loyalty type of guy. Yeah. But like, even like women, like, it's been women that yeah, they're around for the good time, but you know, when some shit goes down, like, it's crickets. People only come around when they want something. And so, you know, I'm trying to deal with shit while trying to maintain this frequency of there, and it's Like it's like a constant, like a tug of war battle and shit because like I felt like I felt so many people, not just me. And so um, you know, I just sit there, you know, I write music and shit like that. And um, I'm sitting there writing music. So the good thing that came, so I always gotta look at the positive side of everything, and I'm looking at it like, okay, at least I could have some fire music that come out of this shit.
SPEAKER_03:And like they say, best music come out when you're in your life.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but man, though, I've never been in so much pain in my life. Like, and I and it's hard to explain because like I don't even know how to really explain it. I never I'm not an emotional person. Like, um, normally I deal with shit very well. I just find the the silver lining in the shit and get over it. But like it's twice this year, like at around the same time, I like just been sitting there and I just break down the fucking tears. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And yeah, and I'm just like, damn, I'm stressed, I'm depressed, you know what I'm saying? Um and I guess like I found the silver lining in this and talking to my therapist, like maybe I needed to be sat down to see other pictures as painted from God and just see other things, you know, because when you sit back, yeah, you be in your head a lot, but at the same time, you sit back and you start seeing things and see, start seeing how people move. And it's powerful to watch people more of a people watcher, it's powerful to watch people move because you can see really see who's the snake in the grass. You can see how they slither, especially when they think that you down, like you know, they ain't fucking with you, and they they but they still have your name in their mouth, or they still trying to figure out things about you. Like it's certain motherfuckers that still haven't called me to this day, and I don't have no resentment towards it, but I see what the fuck it is.
SPEAKER_03:But it's important to keep, it's important to uh remember who's who. Yeah, I mean, don't know. I was I always I I'm big on taking people for who for who they tell you what who they tell you they are. They tell you when they when somebody tells you who they is, believe them. Yeah, facts. That's them. Facts. It's okay. Yeah, I I think sometimes us us, so something I I I big, I think we both have it's called heroism. You ever heard that before? Yeah. So heroism. I read it in the book, actually. Yeah, so heroism, but I thought it was some fake word. I thought it was some somebody made that shit up. But if you think about it, they always have even men that's like a trying to do things household, they you all you all want to be the hero. And not not necessarily be the hero to get the praise, but the hero to be like, all right, put it on my back, let me figure it out. You feel good knowing that your family's eating, your family got closed in the bad day, house is hey, the lights are on, you can sleep good at night. Yeah, so you'd rather you do everything. So it's so for me, so me being married, you could be a hero and all, but it's in, but you have to um let your partner do some work too. And that is extremely hard for me, bro. It's very hard for me to this day. It's a tug of war, huh? It's not as a tug of war, it's just I'm looking for her to fail sometimes. Like, okay, she does I give something to do. And when she fails, I knew it. See, I should have did it. Yeah, I mean, instead of me, and you know what I mean? Oh, you got it, I got you. I believe me. But sometimes like but sometimes I'm like, go ahead, mess up. See, I told you I should've done it. Yeah. I'm I'm looking for I'm I'm ready to jump and that's that's whack. That's how it's supposed to be. But that's just us, that's just us growing up when we grow, especially me growing up, I grow through the the trauma I went through. I had to take care of it. I didn't, it wasn't no, it wasn't nobody's nobody's coming to say the day. When I went to college before in Minnesota State, I got in a car accident, got a call saying your mom and your mama, your mom in the back car accident, she never walked again. I got family my own take care of. So we gotta figure it out. I'm like, damn, my freshman, you know what I mean? My second semester, that's you got family, you gotta take figure it out. So it wasn't easy to figure out for me. You know, my dad gone, that's my brother's sister at home. I told coach, hey coach, I gotta get my stuff back. He's like, What's going on? You know, mom's messed up, I gotta go. And I left, never looked back. You know what I mean? I missed football, I loved it, but I that that journey I went through, I needed to go through it to get to our match today. You know what I mean? So I've always been, I always had that heroism because I wanted it, I wanted to make sure I wanted to make sure everybody I was around me succeeded. Right. You know what I mean? I will sacrifice everything. You good? Okay, cool. You eat today, no, I eat today. You hungry, no, I'll I'll I'll be alright. You eat? Okay, good. That's all that matters. You know what I'm saying? So I think that heroism is it goes deeper to us, but same time you got to learn to people that really want to help us, let them help us. I know it's hard, but I think talking to you too, yes, it's it's it's important. The people that you know are genuine care about you, it's all right, let them have the reins. And I'm talking to myself too. I'm talking to myself. No, no, that's just it's easier said than done. Because I'm it is because the people that really care about you care about you, bro. They want to see you, they want to see you happy. They and they feel what you're not happy, even when I tell them, you tell them all day, I'm good, you smile. The energy is right through that, yeah. So you ain't you ain't right. You know what I mean? So I think that's what we go through.
SPEAKER_05:That's one thing that I had to learn, like I said, recently, is like it's really people in your corner, yeah. But you gotta let them be in your corner. Sure, sure. But like, like you said, we we don't want to seem like a burn. Like it's it's kind of hard because it's like you don't want to seem like a fucking like a burn on something.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, he called this guy calling me gigs up. I would hate to feel, I would hate to hate to be that person to where I'm calling somebody, I'm like, Terrence calling, oh my god, what do you want to do? Yeah, hey, you know, or ignore, like, oh, I just see your call, you know, I don't want nobody to think that way about you. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05:And I don't want people to feel bad or obligated. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? It's right, you know, I whatever it is, I'll figure it out. But sometimes, like, that shit eats at you more because it's like you're already trying to figure out some other shit, and then you're trying to figure out this shit and that shit, and you know what I'm saying? And it's like um, sometimes you gotta rely on your on your system. The circle, man. But at the same time, it's like it's like relinquishing control. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It is in a way, right? That's that's rough. You don't want no, you don't want nobody to look down on you. Yeah, definitely. You know, you don't want nobody to look at you like a needy motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, um, that's why I try to find passions. I mean, like hobbies that turns into passions and shit, because like podcasting is a passion. Yeah, it's a it's a great hobby of passion. Music, great hobby, passion, shit like that. Um fucking uh coaching, I say coaching is it's not a passion anymore, but it's something that is needed. You know what I'm saying? So, like if you notice, like I'm more like, okay, what kind of coach would you consider yourself a better head coach or a coordinator? I think I'm a better head coach. Okay, and I'm a better coordinator. You see what I'm saying? So like I could lead as a head coach, you know what I'm saying? I've done it plenty of times before, but I'm a schemer. I like to scheme. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I I'm I'm okay with falling under the right direction. Same thing with life. You know, and so um I learned sometimes you gotta get people that that trust and um that's in your circle. For sure, you know, and I'm like I said, like I think all men need some type of conversations with the men need to be around men. For sure. And I'm a big fan of therapy, but at the same time, that doesn't work for everybody. Yeah. So they need to find something that's their outlet. This right here, therapy. Yeah, this is therapy. This is why it's kind of started this shit.
SPEAKER_03:Cigars, cigar sessions, yeah, get around people that's like getting around men or people that genuinely are secure within themselves and genuinely want to see you happy. Like when you get around people like that, bro. I never forget when I first started smoking cigars, whatever, right? Going to cigar lounge and everybody older, OGs, whatever, me and come on, boys, whatever. And when I left there, that two hours I was there, I left there, I feel like I conquered the world. Yeah. And this is just it's just the vibe, bro. Like the the women are smoking, like they're just so uplifting, they're positive, they're having this a good time, they're they're enjoying the fruits of their labor.
SPEAKER_05:Cigar lounges um make me escape the world. Yeah, yeah. 100% agree, yes, sir. You know, total on something like that. Yeah. And then the atmosphere, yeah, and I think I told you this, but I want to get back to at least going once or twice a month with your with your fellas. Yeah. You know, I don't like big groups and stuff like that because with big groups is always one loose cannon, you know, one live wire and shit like that. Or it's always somebody that's in the, you know, and then I like I'm a protector first. I'm watching over everybody while we're out. There's too many people watching. I can't I can't relax. Yeah, you know, and I can't relax because I'm watching over too many people. But uh, I think that's like for me, and I know you too, that cigar line, we need just men, we need to go to cigar lounges like at least once or twice a month.
SPEAKER_03:I agree, bro. You know, you gotta smoke. It's just the vibe you get in there, man. I just I I really just put it into words and paint a picture. It's just if you can feel feel my words, what I'm saying, like is this a vibe you get that you legit go in there? Any cigar I've been to, and your your your your guard, your your security forces are just you can let them down. Let them down. Because all day, every day think about it. You and you in you in um protect mode. You ain't you ain't you ain't walking around really nilly, you walking around, you feel somebody behind you. You feel you know your guard is 100% all. I don't care even um subconsciously, you don't even know about it. But it's up. You want a cigar line, you chilling with your boy, whatever you're doing, it's down. It's the first time you'll be like, man. You start really soaking in everything, little things, you peepish, little things, you know what I mean. You're you're growing. It's it's I I think everybody needs that needs that release point at some point because if not, bro, you're you're taking time bomb. You're just yeah, you're you're legit getting bigger and bigger, like you know what I mean? Like it's in the tool, you can't hold on to me. We're human. We ain't cyborgs to where it explodes. And when it explodes, bad things happen, you know what I mean? Emotional things happen, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05:So how uh you're like really popular if you go like to your to your social media, your Facebook or your Instagram. You got a lot of followers in there. Yeah, you know, if you go to Dave's fucking anybody you ever go to his shit, like you probably got 198 mutual friends with the motherfucker. You're like, damn, this person, no, this person, this person. And so um, like you're like almost, I wouldn't say a celebrity, but you like a celebrity within yours within yourself. Sure. Like so when I like, I mean, I I coach with a lot of people, but when just when I say, oh, I'm coaching with Dave Moore, they're like, oh, Dave Moore, uh uh. Oh, he's a good guy, yeah, good character. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm like, damn, like, you know, like, and I didn't realize it's kind of funny because you were in one of my rivals' camps. Yeah, you know, me and Aaron, shout out to Aaron. The Jags, yeah, yeah. The Jags was like a staple in Vegas for a you know, for a long time. For sure. And um, like Aaron was my rival, but that's the homeboy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and uh, so then I started looking at pictures and shit, like, man, Dave was on that team. We played, you know what I'm saying? Um and it and it's funny, you know, you it's it's funny because like it's a s Vegas is small, but it's big. It's hard to explain, you know what I'm saying? Like it's a lot of people that come through in and out of here, but at the same time, it's very, very small. Very small, you know what I'm saying? And uh I say our coaching group this past year, we had uh uh the c we had the um we had a group. So we had they called you uh still Roy Kurt Franklin. Okay, we had Timu Jacques. Crazy. We had we had uh Great Valley Ray J. They called me Chef Boy. We had we had Mac Dre. We had Chief Keith. Am I missing somebody? Who you who who was up? Oh, and then we got Marcel, they called him Bushwick Bill. Man, that's a respectful Marcel. You agree? All right, so if you had the name, if you had that's what they said, that's the one in the parents said I forgot which parent it was. Bill is crazy. Yeah, because the day that he got the game that he got kicked out, and it's like, man, that motherfucker crazy. I didn't know he's always quiet. He crazy as a motherfucker. That's that's gunline boss.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you ever seen uh life, the movie called? Yep, yeah, yeah. That's gunline boss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So if you had to if you had to name our coaches, yeah, like just celebrities and shit, yeah. Start with all start with all of them.
SPEAKER_03:I think that's you perfect, right? Oh, I I've heard Kirk Franklin out, which is crazy. I know hobbies. I'm like Kirk Franklin. They say you steroid Kirk Franklin. Yeah, I've heard that. Crazy work. Jeff Boyd, definitely. Doc Quees, definitely. Uh uh who who was who's Brandon? Oh spectacular?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, spectacular for Pretty Ricky. Pretty, pretty, pretty Ricky.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. It's five in the morning. Okay. Tom Ray. If I had one with this guy. And then you said, what you said, Marv is Mac Dre? I don't know about that. I think I'm not. No, Marv was Chief Keefe.
SPEAKER_05:He either Chief Keefe or he the. Zach was uh Mac Dre I seen him. I call I started calling him Mac Dre because I seen him with his hair down one day. I was giving him some uh t-shirts or some shit. Yeah. And we met at the gas station. I guess he was getting a retwist or something like that. And um he came with, he had the hat on, yeah. And then he had his hair like all puffed out and shit. And I'm like, yo, I guess he's Mac Dre.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And then I think Marv was more who's Marv then? Chief Keefe. So I think Marv. You ever seen a movie called Shotas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Killer and Shotas. The ultimate B movie. What's the fire? What's the killer name and Shotas name? What's that? I forgot, but I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh, he was a dog. That dude and Shotz was crazy, but that's Marv.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um Luz Cannon. Um and then who else was it? Oh, it didn't Gunline Boss. Marcel Gunline. Yeah, yeah. You ever seen the movie Life? Yep, yeah. Gunline Boss. That's Marv.
SPEAKER_05:So now that you said that, I'm gonna try to. So let's let's play it back, and I'm gonna try to put a picture on when I do go back and do that. So we got Chone, head coach. That's Ray J. Would you agree with that? Cool. Okay. Ray J.
SPEAKER_04:One wish.
SPEAKER_05:Then we got you, Kurt Franklin. Kurt Franklin, yeah. Okay. So then you got Marcel downline boss. They said I was Chef Boy.
SPEAKER_03:Chef boy.
SPEAKER_05:You know what I'm saying? That was our team song, too. Yeah, it was. You know, uh song. Then we got um Mac Dre. Exactly because we the there's no names, you know what I'm saying? And then we got and we had a lot of coaches, man. Too many. We had Spectacular and shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, spectac. Yeah. Then we had um uh spectacle. You had a jackwise? Oh, Timu Jacqueese. When they said Timu Jacqueez, like that was like the older man shit. Hilarious. T Mu jaque. Then we had your girl, baby D. Oh my gosh, hilarious. We had this mom, or whatever she was. I ain't gonna air out too much because you know, but like she was the spitting image of Baby D from next Friday. Crazy work. She even used to stand by motherfuckers that re-coaching her child, whatever the case is. I ain't got no. Yeah, she used to stand there like baby D. I used to always tell her, man, you want a moon pie? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like, I ain't got anything to say, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we had some we had some character-ass parents. We had um um uh what's the fuck? What the fuck is that? Uh I can't even think of her name, man. We had we had another parent that was off the rails too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What we call her, what you call her though?
SPEAKER_05:I don't know. Yeah, that's a little baby D. Leave that hello, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And then we got uh Trap Kitchen Sarah, you know what I'm saying? That's his wife, if y'all know, the young. Yeah, no, you know what I'm saying? She uh oh, we had I just see the we had Dolph uh Oh my god. That's the homie, though. That's my dog, though.
SPEAKER_04:That's a homie, so I can't say too much.
SPEAKER_05:I can't say we were alone.
SPEAKER_04:That's my dog.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, so we we definitely had a fucking cast. It was a movie, bro. Yeah, it was a movie. This was a year, that's all I can say. We ended up in a championship, I would like to know. Um, we won it. We got cheesed out of going to nationals. That's a whole nother story in itself.
SPEAKER_03:It is what it is.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they won it, they got the big rings and shit. And we know we're trying to keep it together, but it was like, man, like this year has been a fucking year.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, I I was just I I like I used I love culture. I'm I love culture still, but man, I was looking forward to like I was counting down the day, it was just wild to me. That's not how I get down. I was counting down. Okay, this game. One more game. Yep, me too.
unknown:Okay, this game.
SPEAKER_03:Championship is that cool.
SPEAKER_05:It was getting to a point where I was like, man, don't want to come fucking practice.
SPEAKER_03:It was this though, it got the vibe got off, you know, at the end. Yeah, you know, it is what it is. I'm happy it went through it. You know what I mean? Went through for a reason because it gives you us perspective of what we're not gonna do in the future. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like sometimes you just take a look through the river mirror to see how far you've come to go further in life.
SPEAKER_05:There was one point where we all wanted to just go do our own thing after the season and shit. And now it's like now we kind of build to like a thing where we kind of, not all of us, but a lot of us is back and bigger and better than ever. Definitely, you know, rocking. Yeah, it ain't with the same camp. No, you know, because we want percenters, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But you know, speaking of one percent, bodybuilding. Yeah, you know, you you did your thing with the bodybuilding and shit. Talk about that fucking journey, man. Come on, man. Yeah, man, man.
SPEAKER_03:Hype yourself up. I don't like doing too much. I don't want people to feel like I'm um being uh arrogant or copy. Hype me up. But man, I just I got a real I got a thing on people when people tell me I can't do something. When I when I'm told I can't do something, when it's not it's not in the cars for me to do something. So um, man, before body gone, I ran a marathon, which is something I would have never done in life. I don't want to run. So I ran a marathon 26.2 miles. After that, bro, it was like I was kind of like in limbo, I was hitting a plateau in life. That makes sense. Uh my purpose, I felt my purpose wasn't getting fulfilled. Um I feel like I, you know, I was still trying to be the best person I can be, help people out, whatever, whatever. My purpose, I just I never was, I never felt fulfilled when I went home. So I just looked into bodybuilding at that point. I was like, you know, I'm a bodybuild. You know what I mean? Let me see what I can do. You know, I mean, I started off and the guy I was uh that I showed, I was like an older guy at the gym, and he was like, I was just like, Y'all want a bodybuilding. He was like, all right, cool, let me show you look. Took my shirt off. He's like, Yeah, you ain't gonna make it. I was like, What? I said, What you mean? So that was like December of 2017, and then like March of 2018, I took third place in my first bodybuilding show. And then that year, November, I took first. So from that point on, I took it, it like people people who knew me from like high school, elementary, whatever, whatever, it started, it started a wave to where it um started inspiring people to.
SPEAKER_05:I was trying to see if I could pull up your bodybuilding. It ain't gonna be right, me trying to put the I was trying to pull up the thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was to pull some up, yeah, for sure. But uh it started started a wave of people being inspired by me. And um, that's my purpose, inspire people, right? Um that was procrastinating the thing they was doing, like either getting their getting their bachelor's, getting their masters, whatever it can be. They was procrastinating with a scene that me going through, give them the extra push to do that to finish. You know what I mean? So I started away, I started my own brand, started more games, and with the more gains thing, when they when people start seeing it, it would maybe kept going. The bodybuilding thing was I got so many, I got so many inboxes and text, which is like, man, I just grateful for you to be so transparent in your journey because it really made me start getting off the couch, get off the couch and be in and progress and and try to really um accomplish my dreams. I've been put in the background forever, saying tomorrow, saying next week, saying tomorrow, saying tomorrow until we want to do it now. So me me seeing how dedicated you are with your wife, the food truck, the boys, you're doing this, you're still working here, you still feel time for yourself. That made me motivate to find something for myself.
SPEAKER_05:So I'm gonna have to call your shit now. Like I was trying to, I was trying to give you, I was trying to give you the fucking grace. I really did. And I tried hard. I tried hard. Okay. Dave, shut the fuck up. Like My dog, man, look, nigga, look. First off, first things first. When I first met you, nigga, you in competition mode and shit. So you walk around like starving and shit, but like look like you're about to kill somebody and shit. Okay. Like, talk your fucking shit, dog, bro. Like, come on. All those women say, man, you know. Nah, you doing that melodic shit. You know, I be getting on your ass when you start doing that melodic shit. Just like in the games, you start you start getting it. All right, I'm gonna start feeding the ball. No, fuck feeding the ball to him.
SPEAKER_03:Nah. Gil your shit. Talk your shit. What you place? Man, so okay, so in in Vegas, number one in Vegas. Uh, and then so number one in Vegas, and then as far as bodybuilding your pro card, gotta be top two. I'm fourth in the nation is bodybuilding. Fourth nation. That's a bodybuilding. You ain't you just trying to like just go past that, man.
SPEAKER_05:You know, fuck that, man. Talk your shit. Show me your guns on time. You know, no fucker. It's not fucking looking like little tooky and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, like, dude, this dude coming down his little fucking uh uh what's the type of shit? Then so we coach with other guys that kind of bodybuild or work out heavy and shit like that. So, you know, other age levels, whatever the case may be, yeah, whatever. And then like Dave will come and I'll see like the side eyes and shit, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, and then so nah, bro. I want those. Shout out to my boy Tone. He's a heavy lifter, but he don't he don't lift to compete. He's just a he's a lifter, you know what I'm saying? And um, you know, I only you know, I only lift is just to so I won't be fucking fat, right? And so like Dave come with his fucking tank top, you know, barely on and shit. And you know, then he's like, yeah, I'll just place. And what we watching them place on fucking on Facebook and shit, and I'm like, nah, nigga, talk your shit. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, I did, I did cool. I could have done better. You know what I'm saying? Nah nigga, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We see the shit on Facebook, like talk your shit. This motherfucker would, he looked like he needed a snicker for fucking three weeks and shit. I was like hurting, bro. What? Hey, hurt, you want some skittles? You know, our thing on our team was Skittles. Like we used to, you know, uh like to get us going, we'll well, somebody had a we was doing Skittles like dope. Like, you're not hey, you got the Skittles, nigga. Hey nigga, you got the Skittles. You got the Skittles. You got a protein bar?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we got a protein protein. Protein bar and a fucking Celsius, Celsius. Celsius, yes.
SPEAKER_05:Uh motherfucker carried a duffel bag the whole season and shit. Everybody always wanted to know what's in the duffel bag. What was in that duffel bag? Yeah, it was some stuff in there. I can't say too much. There's some stuff in there, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:There's some stuff in there.
SPEAKER_05:Like he had the full duffel bag. They're like, you want us to hold on the side, like, nah, I take this on the field. Everybody knows the kids are safe.
SPEAKER_03:That's all I gotta say. Kids are safe at all times. Right.
SPEAKER_05:Like, like, damn, like, like this motherfucker. He's saying, yeah, you know, I did, I did it because I had the motivation and the bodybuild. Nah, nigga. Like, talk your shit.
SPEAKER_03:Nah. When I'm on stage, man, I'm on that, you know. Um more gains, right? More games, yes, sir. More games. Um, that's the brand, man. I just I'm just big on, you know, uh embracing what you got, bro. Um, everybody dealt certain cards. It's up, it's it's about how you work them cards and make the best out of life, you know what I mean? So that's what I feel, bro. I mean, if I can do it, I'm gonna be the beacon. Everybody can do it. Have you ever thought about being like a trainer? I have. I think with me with training, I've trained a couple people, I think I care too much. And it not not everybody cares, but nah, I can't, and I find I care more than the person I'm training. And that sometimes weeds them out. And you know what I mean? So it isn't, I don't think I'm the best trainer when it comes to, I don't think I am.
SPEAKER_05:That's kind of funny because like most of the time when you see a lot of trainers, they be out of shape and shit. Yeah, it's like how does that make sense? It's like a doctor to tell you not to smoke and shit. And they be out back smoking cigarettes and drinking.
SPEAKER_03:And those type of trainers get the most clients too, be out of shit. Which is wild to me. I think maybe it's the insecurity. Somebody, if somebody isn't in shape, they talk, talk you, you feel secure. Like he ain't. If somebody's in shape, they really talk when they're talking. It's kind of like you feel now. I think maybe it is they feel insecure, so I don't know. I've tried a couple times, but we'll see.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, okay. I'm gonna just leave it there. We'll see, Michael. Yeah, we'll see. Okay. I mean, you can know, we'll see. Yeah, okay. So you got your wife has we in the kitchen. Yes, sir. Uh, we got we only had to get her on on a separate episode. It's kind of funny because you know, I never done that with your wife. So I'm about to say something that sounds kind of crazy. Yeah, yeah. But it's not, it's not that, please. Don't think it's that. I knew Dave's wife, like we rode around the same circle. So I knew his wife, like five years before I knew Dave and shit. Right, right, right. So then when like, I'm like, oh, that's your wife? Not not like that, but like, you know, uh disclaimer. Yeah, you know, like this ain't no biggie tooch box shit with fake livings or nothing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_05:No, it was like, oh, I know Sarah, like she was always cool, but she was always quiet, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, always a calm, relaxed one and shit. Right. But Sarah ain't really that quiet. Like when you get to know her, she's not really that quiet. Like when I every time I was around her, she, and it kind of makes sense now because you know, she was married to you. Yeah. Y'all married, you know, same thing with you. You you kind of like you'll peep out the seam and shit, especially when you got the hat on and shit. You peep out the scene. And I'm like, um, okay, this nigga peeping out the scene, doing whatever, but you won't say much. Yeah. But the look on your face says it all this shit. So um, yeah, it's kind of funny that it's a small world again because I knew her like five, six years, we're just running around in the same circle as I as I you know ran around with you. I mean, as I I wound up knowing her, then I met you, and yeah, you know, everything came tied together. How is it having a woman um that has her own business and shit? Because I know like I dated women that have their own business, and sometimes it's three things that happen. Um, and there's no shade to women. This is like this, I'm just speaking from my perspective or experience.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_05:Sometimes they get that if they if they're popping, if their business is popping, they get that that that that mindset, like I could do all bad by myself, type shit. So they kind of they try like subconsciously, they try to overpower the relationship and be the d dominant one in the relationship. Or you get the one that's always too busy, so now like, you know, they're not filling up yoke up enough and shit like that. Yep. And then you get the three, the third one, which is is both, where like she might have that mindset, and then like it's never enough time for you, but then like it's not a balance for what you want to do with your shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Right. You know, so it's like a mixing between.
SPEAKER_03:So well with mine, like it's she's busy, bro. That's the busy. It is this now, I don't think it's ever been, it's never been to where um she's supposed to be bigger than relationships. That's not her. She's always down for the for the relationship, but she's just extremely busy. So her being extremely busy, sometimes you have to really like, hey, what's up, man? Like we remember this is first. Yeah, you know what I mean. Sometimes we have to re-up um remind her that or remind the relationship. Me too sometimes. We're busy. We're both busy. Yeah, but both both have to remind each each other that hey, this this relationship is what makes everything else work. When this is breaking down, it's gonna break down too. We have to remember this. So sometimes you have to just remind yourself like that, but she is busy as here.
SPEAKER_05:That's the that's the being entrepreneur is busy because I kind of imagine you guys like the way you guys lifestyle is set up, you guys are um it's interesting because you guys are both really busy. Yes. If you're not coaching, you're at doing this with the and then bodybuilding fucking electrician. Electrician, then it's helping her with her shit. And then it's the boys, then it's the boys. And shit. Trey alone, that's a job in itself. Trey's uh, we call him uh uh what's uh Bobby Johnson's son? Oh yeah, yeah. Little Bobby Johnson. Yeah, so we call Trey little Trey. Trey's a rapper, he's a boxer, DJ, he does it all, bro. He does it all. He he's a football player, he wrestle now, you know what I'm saying? And if you piss him off, like he turned into he's a super blood. You know what I'm saying? We call him the game.
SPEAKER_03:This guy is wild, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Like, I I never seen a kid, that's that's my dog clue. I never seen a kid in my life. Like, he will get his get back. Don't matter if it's his teammate or the opposing team. I'm gonna paint a story real quick. And and Trey wanna, Trey wanna the coolest kid ever been. He'll have your he'll one thing about Trey is if you fuck with one of his boys, he on your head, right? Rocky, he ain't gonna crazy. So he's going crazy. We had a kid, he was this kid was like kind of like a crash out, you know. And um, I forgot how him, like oh, oh, I was standing right next to them because I was talking to them and stuff. So one day this kid he was looking at Trey. He wouldn't say nothing, he was just like just like looking at him for like I I counted like maybe like three, four minutes, the eye caught. Yeah, he was just looking at him like this the whole time. Yeah. So Trey took that shit personal. So we in the middle of hitting. Practice is almost over, so Trey letting the shit marinate. So he said, Why you keep on looking at me like that? What's your problem? And so I let it go because I'm like, you know, sometimes I let the boys figure it out. Figure it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I said, okay. So then the next day we send the kids on the lab every day before practice, they had to take their lap around the field. So me and my boy Brandon, we talking to you, and I take it, I look over and I see it building up. So I see Trey, like I see him creeping up on the other kid. And I never seen Trey run so fast to try to catch up to a kid. So I'm like, oh, something about to go on. Man, so so Trey pressed him on the other side of the field. So I'm letting the shit play out because one, that's a long side of the field. And then two, I'm like, I'm trying to see what they're gonna do. Yeah. So Trey said something to him, they face to face, and then Trey, you could just see him like just the shit just building up, right? So then all of a sudden they get to fighting, and Trey just like whooping, dude. So we ran over there. No, I didn't run over there. One of the other coaches ran over there, and so they bring him back, and so we made him hit. So now Trey's even more mad, so Trey's trying to hit him. Trey, uh, Trey won best uh two out of three. So the first time the one kid gave it to his ass. I ain't gonna lie, he he smacked him, so that made Trey even more mad. So the second time they smacked him, and they the third time they fighting on the ground now after the hit. And they see he's Trey standing over him and they get the little wrestling and shit. So that's when you came in, uh stepped in and you made him run holding hands and shit. But Trey held that shit for like two days, even going towards the game, like he wasn't fucking with that dude. He didn't fuck with the dude until the kid quit, or whatever happened. And um but in this kid was a crash. I could I could I could imagine, I could see this kid being like uh a rough and tough type of dude, like outside of this shit. Like we had to have a like a one of our coaches or our interns, assistant, like sick. We stick that person, coach, whatever he is, on him every practice. That was his role. This is no, actually, we had two different coaches, as a matter of fact. Yeah, so there's another time, Trey. We get we in the game. This kid did something to Trey. Trey let it go the first time. Second time the kid did it again. Third time, I look over, Trey waited for the ref to turn his back, and they on the ground wrestling and shit. I said, Man, you a little thug. But see, Trey, he a rapper. You can't tell him that he ain't the coldest rapper out of Vegas.
SPEAKER_02:That's cool, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:I said, Trey, spit a bar. He's like, I don't got nothing for right now because I'm mad. I said, Well, we'll spit a mad bar. So, all right, all right, all right, all right. Look, I got you. I got you. He'll spit bars, and once you give him to start spitting bars, he on, he ain't gonna stop. You know what I'm saying? Six years old. Would you like that as a kid?
SPEAKER_03:Was you little Trey? No, I was not like Trey. I was not like that, bro. Yeah, he probably was. I don't think I was like that, bro. No, I think my brother was like that. My little brother was like that. Me, no. Him and Brady like total opposite. Total opposite. My oldest son, 13 and Trey six. Braden was cerebro, he calm server. Trey, he is ready to crash right now. He's very loyal. If he likes you, he you was with me, yeah, he's rocking with you. Yeah, I wasn't like that. I don't, nah, my own, bro. I do not remember being that much of a crash out, bro. I don't know. My brother, yes, with the function.
SPEAKER_05:Definitely. Not me. Nah, Trey with the function. Like, if you didn't know better, like if go watch it, go watch the movie South Central. And that kid in South Central, that's really Trey.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he with the function. He does Willie Man chest for this. Yeah, for real. He is. He's I think that we had our tournament. Somebody had kicked our quarterback in the stomach, and as soon as that happened, he did wasn't no way. He ran to the side of the field. Mink mop boom. I'm like, Trey, stop. Pick him up. But the refs knew me. I mean, what's up with Lil David? Like, man, he just don't play him. I used to like, you know what I mean? Get him out of here.
SPEAKER_05:I'm like, go ahead. Hey, Trey is the reason why they was calling me Chef Boy all season. Because first off, they said I look like him, supposedly. Yeah. I don't. But uh, but they said because Trey always, every game, every practice, Trey would say, hey, put on that Chef Boy uh Gang gang. Gang gang and stuff. So Trey, that's all he like. The reason why Trey got in trouble at practice so much is because Trey was rapping to himself. And so he like he'll check out and he'll like he's coming up with bars, and I think like he can't write the bars down because he don't got no pen and paper. So he's trying to remember the bar, so he's just doing this the whole time in street. Practice over and then practice over. And I'm like, Trey, pay attention. And all of a sudden he'll go hit somebody and then back to bro.
SPEAKER_03:Character, bro. He's the life of the party. Anywhere I can say, anywhere we go, bro, I can tell you gonna bright, he's gonna brighten that room up.
SPEAKER_05:You need management services, elevated one management. You know what I'm saying? We might gonna need it soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something his light is bright, bro. Some parents say they, you know, they want the NIL deal, but you know he's definitely somebody gonna give him something for sure. Yeah, yeah. I could give him some some bread. His light is bright.
SPEAKER_03:He could be in a couple movies, a couple commercials, a couple rap songs. He's gonna make it right. That's Lil' Lil Bow Wow. He got a stink face, he like he got scars everywhere.
SPEAKER_05:Man, listen. That's uh that's uh that's Trey Savage. Man, for real.
SPEAKER_03:He is different, but I love every minute about it, bro.
SPEAKER_05:My boys, that's our dog. It's dope, it's dope, bro. I love it, man. I can't wait to see him like the him progressing for sure shit next time. 13-year-old trade. That's me crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we don't have to, especially since he's taking up wrestling now. You know, so what would you? You got your podcast. Let's shout out your podcast. Yeah, not your average, not your average podcast.
SPEAKER_03:So, what made you guys start that? Man, it started, bro, honestly, therapy, man. Like therapy is like honestly, in in our culture, uh, me and black men, any men, therapy's kind of looked down upon like you're soft. You know what I mean? You're going to therapy soft, so you know, going smoke cigars, you chopping up. But when we smoke a cigar, we were talking about the we talked about some deep conversations. And then uh I was I was at a cigar session one day at Chapanash. And um, and I was in my head, I was like, hey bro, like I think we I think we left. We left, we got done, good cigars. It's not test the group. I'm like, yo, what we talking about? People need to hear this, bro. Yeah. It's this this is this isn't this isn't this shouldn't be just confined to the cigar lounge. This should be something we should talk about on podcast. I don't think, you know, I mean, not too many people talk about what we talk about, you know what I mean. We're being very vulnerable. That's not, that's not, it's not uh, it's kind of frowned upon in our cultures of being vulnerable. You're not supposed to be vulnerable, but it's probably supposed to be tough. We talked to suck it up. I'm crying, whatever, whatever. But we're talking about we really being vulnerable to each other, you know what I mean. Talk about that. And like that's and then I was like, uh, what about and I thought about the name Not Your Average, because we ain't trying to nobody in here wants to be average, right? We want to be better than average, you know what I mean? We want to be A's, you know, I'd be phenomenal. So I thought about that name, not your average, and that's how we came up with a part of it man. We started the podcast and we start putting our emotions on screen, you know what I mean? So people can really see what's going on, you know. That's therapy. It's therapy for me. We hoping with the podcast that it's therapy for somebody else, too. Somebody watches it, one person, two persons, see, like, I need that.
SPEAKER_05:So, what's the dynamics of like everybody in like what does everybody bring? Like, because it's four of you guys.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. So I think with me, uh, I'm definitely the emotional one for sure. I have I'm gonna cry. I'm definitely the emotional one. Um, my boy Snug, he's more of the uh I'll say straight to the point analytical. Um Deshaun is more of the level headed, he's the he's he is the one that's all like this never will be high, never gonna be low. He just like that.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:DJ can DJ can go from both both sides of the fence. He can be not necessarily emotional, but at the same time, he can paint a picture. He's the he's the um, he's the he's the painter, that makes sense. Okay. He can paint the picture, you know what I mean? And I can he can paint the picture and I can and I can add the words to it. You know what I mean? So that's how that works, you know what I mean. And then Snug put the book together, and then Deshaun would be the one, you know, coloring, who knows? You know what I mean? But that's how it all comes together in a good book. Like DJ can paint the picture, I put the words to it. Snug can be the the uh person, the voiceover, and then Deshaun's the one narrating it. That makes sense, yeah. Yeah, it's like that, yeah. Okay, so you guys got a lot going on.
SPEAKER_05:So we got we in the kitchen, yeah, yeah. We got more games, yes, sir, and we got not your average. Yes, sir. Okay, so with those three right there, am I missing anything? Nope. Okay, so what describe what what would you want the world to know about each single aspect of one? Every one, each one.
SPEAKER_03:Every one, each one. So when we in the kitchen, man, I want people to understand that uh Shout out We in the Kitchen. Um I want people to understand that it's it's it's it's um extremely organic. There's nothing about that as uh when she's making her food, she wants it, she's it's fresh. It's organic, it's coming from her soul, coming from her hand. She she it's not just for a dollar, it's not for money, it's it's more for the um what she said she called what's her slogan? Oh, blessing taste buds. Okay. She wanna bless taste buds. You know what I mean? So when people eat that food, it's like, oh, it's phenomenal. Whatever they're going through in life, they when you eat when you eat a certain type of meal and you eat something, whatever you're going through, you like you kind of forget about it. Like, oh, it's just fire. You know what I mean? Even whatever you're going through, like, oh, it's just fire. So that's her passion for to where she can touch somebody's soul through her food, you know what I mean? Through her journey. And um, her mom passed away in like 2020, and that was her that was her passion cooking like that. So after she passed away, you know, Sarah took it up and made it to where it is today. So it's really cooking from the soul, cooking for the spirit, and her mom's legacy. Um, that's that's for we in the kitchen. When it comes to more games, man, I think when whenever somebody hears more games or see the the logo, the slogan, the brand, I want people to understand that um the same journey you're going through, the next person next to you probably going through this exact same journey. But the difference between you and them is you ain't quit. You know what I mean? Okay, you you know what I'm saying? So you embrace the failure. Not everybody everybody wants to say trust the process and blah blah trust the process sucks. It's not it's not hard. It's not easy. I'm sorry, it's hard, it sucks. But if you embrace that legitimately and you embrace failure, that failure is literally gonna turn to success if you learn what not to do. You know what I mean? So when they see the more James Brown, I want people to still feel like um giving extra motivation and determination to keep going forward and give themselves grace to fail. Okay. And then when they see not your average, I want them when they hear not your average, I want them to feel like um that uh life is life, life is what you make it, but at the same time, give yourself grace on whatever you've been through in life and let and allow yourself to heal in order to become a better you.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:You know what I'm saying? So I I think we get so caught up in life and living life to get up in the morning, go to work, kids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You never allow yourself to heal. Sometimes you really need to sit back, look in that review mirror to see how far you've came to get further life in the present. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You feel me? So that that's why that's what I that's what that's that's the that's the the premise of everything I go through. But I really wanna I really want to just look back on my when I when everything's said and done, you know, um and I get called to the gates or wherever we go to, like what you do in life, like I I touched everybody. I thought I touched, I touched somebody. I I made somebody feel like their last day wasn't today. You know what I mean? They got another day tomorrow. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:So I fuck with that.
SPEAKER_03:That's that's the goal, brother.
SPEAKER_05:All right, so we're about to get out of here. We're gonna we got we're gonna play a little game. We're gonna have fun. Okay, okay, right. It's gonna be real quick. So it's out of the top of your head, but it's it's no right or wrong answer because whatever this means to you. Okay. Okay. So off the top of your head, three books that shape your life and that you would tell people that will shape their life.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Ways is Superior Man, Ways Superior Man. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Um gosh, um Kingdom Man, Kingdom Man's Two. Um Three is uh Grit.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, all right. Now, three songs that shape your life. That's your whenever you're going through something that's just shapes you, that's your feel-good song that stays with you forever. It could mean it had any meaning to it, but three songs. It could be any genre.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my gosh, but I can't see. I don't know the name on top of my head of names. Um, his name is uh God, what's the god of name? His name's um God's gonna kiss me. The the vo um bro, I forgot the names, bro. I can't oh my I'm drawing the brain for it. Hold on, hold on. It's a good game, huh? Yeah, it's a good game, bro. Because I got some songs that really put me in that zone, right? And you got it. Well, that's a new song. That's just fire. I guess it's newer. Proud of me by Friday Meek Meal. You heard that song? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy word. Yeah. Bananas. That one's fire. Uh Dark Knights remix, Kaki Ka, Meek Meal, and Friday, those two. Right now it's ridiculous, but some other songs that I this can't remember, that's the older song. Those two right now put me in a mould to a lot. Hey man, you got it. You know, you got this, you know what I mean? Um with the Proud of Me song that's talking about his dad passing away. With the Kaki Ka song, Dark Knights talking about um only person in the mirror gonna have only person who really got you in the end of the day is you in that mirror. You know what I'm saying? Like you get family around you, but that's person in the mirror, only person that really got you, and that's you. Oh my god, it's one more song that's legit, bro. It's called um, I think by Dax. It's called I think Lonely Nights or Lonely Road by Dax. Okay, Lonely Road, I know that song. Yeah, fire.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. Three things that you want to be known as by or oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Hmm. Three names I want to be known as. Okay. Father, husband, provider.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. And last but not least, your three goals for the next three years. Three goals for the next three years.
SPEAKER_03:Um I want to own two triplexes the next three years. I want to, um I want to triplexes. I want to I want to have um I want my own mentor. I want my own mentorship group for kids ages five to thirteen, like my own group. Um I'm a high n like I'm let me phrase not group, house. My own mentor house. Um and name house gonna be house of gains. Um that I want that. And then I want to have um I want to have equity and something. I want to have um some type of um generational wealth. Um God, but some something in in the um in the AI in industry. That makes sense. Something like that, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Something like that, yeah. Okay, yeah. All right. I like, I mean, those are great. Yeah, you know. Um favorite food, real quick. Tacos.
SPEAKER_03:Tacos ta authentic, though, not no taco bill, like authentic, like somebody that bill I made on fire, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, yeah. Favorite color? Red.
SPEAKER_03:Favorite car, 1960 66 and power.
SPEAKER_05:Favorite hobby. Like lifting, bro. Yeah, lifting. It's your favorite hobby? Yeah. Um if you was to build yourself into a mega into Thor or Megatron, yeah, give me five things that would build that person. Thor? Like I I I'm super super ability, super ability. You just take five abilities, five traits.
SPEAKER_03:Five abilities, five traits. I would be um flight. Flight. Um flight um what's the word? What's the one you freaking teleportation? Flight teleportation.
SPEAKER_01:Um magnetism.
SPEAKER_03:And elasticity.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Alright. Yeah. I got this is my last one, and we're gonna do the shout-outs and get the fuck out of here. Watch this. If this is this might take a little bit of thought, but you can't think. You only got 30 seconds to answer this question. Hey, hobby cigar.
SPEAKER_03:Or 20 seconds. Hobby cigar. I like cigars. I'm not late lifting too, but hobby is my cigar. Yeah, I'm wild. Okay. Tripping.
SPEAKER_05:You take your wife on a vacation that you could don't necessarily have to come back from. Okay. What are you doing? Where are you going? You got 20 seconds, go.
SPEAKER_03:We are going to somewhere blue water. We're going with. We already been there, we ain't coming back. We're going, we're going off the coast of Italy. Coast of Italy, and we are getting uh some kind of cottage off the off the coastal water with a wine vineyard. You want the cobblestone roads. We chillin', we enjoying life, feet up.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. Sir. What kind of what's the closest food that you'll describe your wife as? So you got all these, yeah, we got all these pet names, right? Yeah. Being that your wife does food, right? What would be the what would be the closest food she's she's a slow, she's a slow burner, right?
SPEAKER_03:So she got I'm saying oxtails. Oxtails. You can't just throw oxtails in the fryer and they're done. That'll take like eight hours. So you gotta really, you gotta pick back some layers for her.
SPEAKER_05:So my girl would be like, I'm sorry, it'd be like a short stack or something like that. Yeah, sweet. But it could fuck you up. You understand?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. A real short sweet. Oxtails, because once you once you let the let the little marinade and you eat it, you're it's it's soul food, right? So you feel soul feel full. So yeah. All right. So anybody, shout out all your people, shout out everybody, man. Shout out, shout out to my wife, Sarah. Uh, we in the kitchen food truck, shout out to um my boys DJ, Snug, Sean, not your average. Shout out to my children, Braden and Trey, Treymote 24. Um, man, shout out, shout out to my God, shout out to Terry for having me here. Thank you for having me here, Elevate Network. Appreciate you, bro. Um, man, shout to everybody ever coached and ever been around in my life, man. Shout out to everybody. Um, much love to everybody, bro. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Shout out to man. Look, if y'all, if y'all ever in Vegas and y'all, y'all hungry, y'all want some like soul foods like that, you know what I'm saying? Um, the fish. You know, I'm gonna start doing, you know, I'm uh I told my story that I'm gonna start doing like food reviews. Oh, yeah, might as well. Yeah, so I'm gonna start going, but uh, you know, being that I fly free and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna do some here, but I'm gonna fly out to different places. I'm gonna send you this grill that I really like. Okay. Yeah. But anywho, um, yeah, shout out to We in the Kitchen Food Truck. Shout out, shout out to all my dogs, man. I don't even have to name all y'all. You know who it is. Uh Elevator One Network, uh, Standout University is coming very soon. Uh it should have videos up by the time this airs, we should have a video coming behind this one for our other channel. So I'll put the links in the bio. Um shout out to men getting therapy and talking about that. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to man just being better. You know, higher frequencies, yeah, be more intentional, you know. Even with being privileged, you gotta be more intentional. You know what I'm saying? Um, and shout out to everybody that fuck with us. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We don't have to get a cigar night and a part two to this motherfucker. There's a lot of other shit I wanted to ask, so I wanted to fit everything in there, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to run out the buttons, but uh on that note, we out, peace.
