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Elevated Talkz
Pivot, Purpose, and Paper
A lot can change in four years—and not always for the better. We trace the arc from Champagne Talks to today with G6, a director-producer-CEO-artist who’s built platforms, managed talent, and learned why consistency beats clout every time. The conversation starts with the podcast shakeout—why so many shows vanished, how OnlyFans became a stopgap for creators, and what shelf life really looks like when you’re selling attention. Then we get practical about what actually sustains: audio-first strategy, stacking episodes before release, and the quiet discipline of shipping on your worst day.
We open the hood on G6 TV, from building a content pipeline to planning a holiday drop, and dive into the music calendar—quarters, Grammy timing, and why the end-of-year scramble rarely pays off. The energy shifts as we talk authenticity and value beyond looks, calling out performative panels and thirsty optics in favor of a simpler play: be cool, smell good, work your plan, and choose partners who bring peace to the backend of your life. Fatherhood and coaching bring it home—showing up, then teaching a kid to score even when no one’s in the stands. NIL strategy enters with a real path: pivot from marketing into sports representation while still chasing creative hardware (yes, the EGOT).
We break down virality without the fantasy—repurposers, platform economics, billions of aggregate views that don’t always translate unless you own your data. Analytics matter. Timing matters. Systems matter. And so does mental health. We talk numbness, therapy through conversation, and the “reality pill” of aligning purpose with a higher standard you actually believe. When a city stops feeding your work, it’s time to reinvent and move. When perfectionism stalls a release, make a public bet and ship. That’s the throughline: purpose, consistency, and reinvention.
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I know you guys know. G6. I'm gonna hey I'm gonna do a proper intro. Let me let me let me start all over. Let me start all over. We're gonna do a proper intro. We got entrepreneur, money train management, fucking CEO, G6 TV, rapper, entrepreneur, and Tommy for Martin. Uh G6 in the fucking building.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. We back. He forgot director, but I love him nonetheless. But uh Producer too. Yeah, yeah. Executive producer. Oh, everything, everything. I'm everything. But uh I hope I hope we got uh all of that good stuff. But yeah, man, I'm back in the building, man. Elevated talks, man. I'm here. Uh this is not the Joe D reunion, as you guys can see, but uh we didn't plan this, but I guess this was the vibe. You know, he told me that when I come back, we're gonna do it the right way. It's been because this is supposed to be uh basically a remix of champagne talks because we did the first one maybe four years ago. I just saw, I just got a Facebook notification that uh four years ago we did our first one. It was around this time.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, let's see. Oh, so the one with uh the one at level nine. Level nine, yep. Okay. With you and Danny, yeah. That's a long time ago. It's four years, man. Like five years. Sorry. That's a long time ago. Um, you know, uh, we could speak on that, but so much change. Um, the same podcasters and the same content creators that was here is no longer here, or they're doing other things, and you had a lot of people pivot to OnlyFans, you had a lot of people move out of state. Let's talk about those OnlyFan pivots. Oh, yeah, yeah. I see we've seen a lot of OnlyFan pivots. It's a lot of podcasters that um that definitely went that route. I guess is especially if you're a woman, it's more lucrative that way, right?
SPEAKER_03:Facts. I mean, over a podcast, I mean, you know, unless they know what they're doing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Monetized wise, advertising-wise, and I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I think like it's like OnlyFans, I think, could be like rap. I mean, you always gonna have your horny guys and girls and shit like that, or males and females, whatever, or whatever people want to call themselves nowadays. Um But like, you know, it's like the rapper money. Like you you you got your sh your shelf life and then what happens after that. Because like I'm no longer wanna after five years of fucking paying for your services, I no longer want to pay the what how much is the average? About$9.99?
SPEAKER_03:Now, yeah, that's I wouldn't know the average, but that sounds about right. I mean, like, I guess, yeah. Well, I guess I'm familiar with that because you know I deal dibble and dabble in like OnlyFans management. I have a few people that do that. But um, yeah, nah, I guess nine, nine to f$14.99 or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, so if you're doing that, you gotta come up with new content, come up with new moves, you gotta shoot some porno in there a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Keep your friends engaged, you gotta engage with the fans. I guess it's a little tiring. Um, and so if you charging$14.99 a month and you got a thousand people subscribed, you know, that's that's a win. That's a win. Until you gotta reinvent yourself after that amount of time. Because all those uh they're not they're not all everybody's not gonna stay. It's like it's just like the pretty girl, right? Um like you have that girl that's pretty, any guy she wants for the most part, you know what I'm saying? And then like, you know, she's still pr relatively pretty, but like it's a new crop of pretty girls. Right. So now you gotta find even more ways to be prettier, if that makes sense, you know what I'm saying? So I guess I mean the short term it works. Like, and if you know how to flip that and turn it into something else, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, a lot of a lot of them don't really know how to leverage that into something, but the ones that do, I mean, you know, they make they make a great living out of it financially. You know, we're not gonna get on, you know, where they're at mentally to do that.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, well, like you say, you know a lot of people and you manage people that you know do all that stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, their mentals is fucked up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mentally, they're fucked up. You know, it's uh it's a you know, I mean, it's at the end of the day, it's very there's very few women that I know that are in that profession that I know personally that actually probably, you know, got their mind right. Now I know a few that got their that their mental was on point. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, very, very solid. Shouts out to Riley. Yeah, oh yeah, Riley, yeah. She's a hustler. She's a hustler, she's solid, but you know, just mentally, her mental, her mental is pretty much on point, especially, you know, 360 from what most of those women in that, you know, profession, you know, how they get down.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but then you got, you know, other ones that's like, yeah, they might look like a Riley or they might move around like a Riley, but like you could tell like their shelf life is coming, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Right, right. Yeah, because everybody's not gonna understand um to reinvent themselves, you know, does it make it?
SPEAKER_01:You kind of see a lot of stress on their face too, a lot of times. Like if you if you pay attention, like a lot of them be having like a lot of uh like they ate to me, is uh not all, but a lot that I notice, they age a little bit faster because you know, I don't know. Maybe this is No.
SPEAKER_03:Well, um, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'll say it like this. I always have this saying, it's like a you know how you know the eyes are the windows to the soul. So it's almost like a woman's eyes. I can always tell. I've we've talked about this, but I can always tell if a woman's been, you know, I'm saying, abused or hit, because it's almost like I can I can see it. Yeah. But it's like a woman's eyes, um, I I don't know if it was in a poem or something like that, but it was basically said, like a woman is supposed to be, her eyes are supposed to be like the light. So it's almost like a lighthouse. So, you know, uh, what's a lighthouse's job? It's supposed to bring, you know, bring men, bring ships, you know, guide the ship so the ship doesn't get lost in that. So it's like sometimes you can almost see, now if a woman's eyes are like this, now if one, if is one is punched out, so to speak, then it's like, you know, you know how a lighthouse is, so it's guiding. So if now now if this light, if this light is off, now this one can only go to this. It can only surveil this much. It can't, it can't do the whole situation. So, you know, long story short, it's almost like I can I can see that. So I know exactly what you're talking about. You can almost see the damage when you can when you can see that. You know, and everybody's gone through damage, trauma, all that type of stuff. We all have, but just the levels of it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think that um, I mean, I'm not knocking anybody that uh that does whatever you do, I don't knock gay. It's all on you. Like have fun, have fun, do it, do it smart. Um, but I I feel like everybody with everything should have a backup plan. That's that's just time, that's just landing this plane back to the fucking to the podcast shit, right? A lot of these people thought that they could get rich fast off of content or podcasts or whatever. They wrote, they tried to ride a wave, right? And that wave didn't, you know, didn't take them to where they wanted to go and shit like that.
SPEAKER_03:But did they get into it to like did they get in? Okay, so let's use you, let's just use us as an example. So you, for an example, you made me believe that you got into this for this. Like you weren't just doing this and kind of happened to jet get into it. Yeah. Same with me. I was doing it for a while. A lot of the people during COVID or just whatever the this new podcast thing is, is they just started doing it because of that. So if you do it because of a fad or you do it because of that, you already not doing it for the right reasons. So your shelf life, you already got a predetermined shelf life. You know what I mean? So that's facts. It's already predetermined because you already, you're not doing it for, you know, the right reasons. It's just like love or anything, even with God. Like, if you're not gonna do it for the right reason, don't even do it, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like and that and that's what I try to tell people when they say, Oh, I'm gonna come out with a podcast. I said, Would you rather come out with a podcast or a show? Because it's a little bit different. Yes. And at least with a show, you know, you don't have people that that you build in that's going to listen and want to, you know, be looking for that shit all the time. Is you have it's a little bit less consistency and it's more risk to I guess more risk to reward. No, for sure. Yeah, but um, with the podcast, you have to be more consistent and willing to take those L's in the beginning and ride out the wave and see where you could land after that. You know what I mean? Because like it's like a lot of ups and downs, but the most part that people don't forget or people forget to remember is the consistency. Right. You know, even with me, like sometimes I'll be unconsistent with the shit, you know.
SPEAKER_03:It's true, but this is the thing. You already built the foundation. So I notice a lot of people say that we all say that. We all this is just life. Nobody can be consistent all the time if they say that they're bullshit and or they're a robot, right? But it's like somebody with you, like like you, you actually built a foundation and you built the audio. So that's another side sidebar that most people don't know. Yeah, yeah. With you, the audio was people, the audio. Because what I learned after you did that was 80% of people that watch podcasts, they only listen to audio anyway. I had no idea about that. To me, that just like that, that's like the Neptune sounds on my whole doo, doo, doo, because everybody knows I'm Mr. Film Everything, but I didn't know that. But you were ahead of the game understanding that, and I was even doing it, you know what I'm saying, for such a long time, but I didn't realize the marketing of it, which is why I wanted to be Phil Jackson more. I wanted to be the owner more instead of being Jordan. That shit gets yeah, you get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:So speaking of that, um, you know, you got your show that we've been telling you to fucking get forever. You finally got it.
SPEAKER_03:Like we did our first interview, he was like, Well, you don't got a fucking show.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Not your not you making appearances on everything else, because you made an appearance on every fucking show that you can probably imagine, right? Sure. Um, but you got your own shit. So how is that how's your perspective on the shit now?
SPEAKER_03:Like, oh man, that's a great question. The perspective on G6 TV, make sure you guys uh go subscribe, G6 TV. Um, the perspective of it is different. I I definitely got to salute and applaud you guys because uh that shit is not easy. It's not easy. And when you're in the driver's seat of, I mean, I've always been in the driver's seat of my own dream and all of that type of stuff, but when you do something like this, it's moving parts. I've got business partners, I've got people that have to, you know, you nobody does everything by themselves, you know, even when you were doing it, you were doing it with um with Danny and stuff like that. So, and Unc, you know what I'm saying? So me, you know, not saying I didn't have any help, but if it just comes down to me having to do it, you know, I had to do that part of it as far as hosting and all that type of stuff. But um, but once I got on camera, I mean, I mean, you know, I'm a natural, I've been doing this for so long. So it was dope. And what was dope was is that now I'm doing this so I can actually give back. I don't want to, you don't want to sound cheesy, but I want to give back to the creator or to the um, if I'm the journalist and that, you know, my subject, whoever I'm interviewing, I want to give it to them. So it's like you, when you came on my show. You booked, of course you got your flowers, but you booked, you booked yourself, so to speak. So I want everybody to come on my show. I want to know when your schedule is. So we don't have to go through the back and forth. You he told me when he wanted to be on my show, so it's almost like you booked yourself because I actually am empowering myself, so I have the show, so you can come, you know, I can do it anytime I want. And I mean anytime. If you was to say 3 a.m., we thugging it out, then 3 a.m. we thugging it out. So that that part of it is cool. But um, you know, it's it's a learning experience. I'm on uh episode eight, I'm almost at 10, just stacking them. I haven't uh hasn't hasn't dropped yet. You know, I'm trying to give people something for Christmas, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like giving that bowl on top. Yeah, just something for the holidays. And, you know, like I said, I've been learning from the people that, you know, kind of, I mean, you guys still taught me the game and school me to the game because I'm just being on your platform, I'm still learning. Um, you know, you told me make sure you can stack stock some stuff now, because you always did it like live, and then you know, we went, we came up to those problems and stuff like that. Not that it was a problem with you, no, it wasn't. You were like, if I could do it a different way, yeah, you know. So I'm just I'm just trying to, you know, add my flavor where I can add my flavor.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. Like, well, you know, with me is like I'm a gatekeeper. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:So off top, you told me to jump like.
SPEAKER_01:Like, do this shit, like, you know what I mean? Even with the music shit, like I tell people like, I do, I I write so many songs, do music, you know what I'm saying? I got a production team, I got artists that, you know, that that's dope as shit. You know, you heard some of the songs and said, We played some of the songs on your show. No, you ain't you ain't never played me nothing that wasn't fire.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm still patiently waiting, and I'm trying to get on, and I'm trying to get my artists on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I got uh I got the uh that album, which I played you some shit off of. Um the goal is to drop at the end of the month. You know, I noticed like with RB, um This time. It's it's everything's all timing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? With rap. Yeah, with rap, you could just, it's it's micro shit. Right. You could just Well the season right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's called the season, it's called season. Snippy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I want to give you out some.
SPEAKER_03:She finally, you know, she finally said, all right, these other motherfuckers ain't picking up the phone. Yeah. So yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:And that goes to another thing. Uh, I think that's what messes up everything, too, is a lot of guys are simps. Yeah. So you got guys that they they'll re do their whole life. And I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but I'm just saying like how the process process of things work. They'll redo their whole life and restructure everything that they got going for said women, which is like again, I'm not saying it whatever works for whoever, right? Right. But you ain't got a preference. Yeah. Talk no shit. But, you know, at the same time, it's it makes things harder if you got projects lined up. Um, and like when I'm writing, like sometimes like I'm writing for a specific person, and that's specific person's in love. Or, you know, they can't feel the music the same, or they can't sing the music the same rather than if they're going through a breakup or you know what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:That shit is real because um look, as as we look like Joe to see, but just also. But the cool part about it is it's like when you really think about it, it's like the older I get and the more that like, you know, I'll sing and be belonic and stuff like that. You really gotta give credit to RB singers and stuff like that. Because if you really try, which I've really never really tried to sing, sing, I I I always tell people, I think I'm just a good, like I can mimic. Like you if you play uh RB God to sing, and I can kind of ooh, like I can sing with him, or you know, I can kind of do that type of thing. That's me. That's me, like in the room. Right, I don't really think I'm a great singer. Right. I'm a I'm gonna fucking shower. I got a Grammy in the shower too, so when it comes when it comes to shit like that, um, it's a lot of emotion that goes in the singing. And um to be honest, I mean, I don't think I got it in me to to sing on stage. When all those emotions are gone, you st and then you start seeing when people sing and be crying and stuff on stage, it's real. Yeah. Especially if these are things that they wrote, these are really their personal experiences and things like that.
SPEAKER_01:And that's what I try to do when I write, you know, because like everybody knows I can't sing. I could rap, I could, you know, I could write my ass off. For sure. But like a lot of times, like I try to, if it's not me personally, I try to get a personal story that I put somebody in or whatever the case may be. And um I try to write from their standpoint, but a lot of times I try to write from my standpoint. So like, like, for example, like, let's say we got, let's say we got Jules, right? She went through a heartbreak, right? Right, right, right. I'm only using her because I see her in the back. Shouts out to Jules. Shouts out to Jules. She went through a heartbreak, this dude did this, whatever. She, you know, she had a situation ship and that she thought that was gonna work and it didn't work, right? So as a friend, I'm listening to her and I'm like now feeling her shit, right? And so then, like, all right, I put my situations and how I feel about this, because I I've been a I've been a boyfriend, been a fiance, that's been uh been a uh a side dude, boyfriend number two, you know what I'm saying? I've been all that, right? See what you're saying. And I and I write from that perspective of the stories that uh they're telling me, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:I've heard writers talk about a lot of different ways to do it, but it's almost like like uh you know, you know, um, like in the in the movies where a girl will be in a scenario or something like that, it should be like, oh my god, this guy's trying to talk to talk to me. Can you just act like you're my boyfriend? You're doing that in a sense. Yeah. In that moment for the record.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's fire. So like, for example, like um, like when I wrote Or the X, like the X, the the guy that's can't. You're like, tell me more about this, tell me more.
SPEAKER_01:So like, you know, with with the situations where I wrote it with Todd, right? Like, I've been in situations before. Right. Right, but then at the same time, I had women that at the time when I was writing that song or coming up with that that song, I had women tell me, like, now I was in a so-called relationship for five years. But it wasn't a relationship, it was a situationship.
SPEAKER_03:And they didn't know it.
SPEAKER_01:And they didn't know it until they got out of it. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever had to have they ever had to realize that in the moment? That's what it sounds like you're getting to. Yeah. It sounds like sometimes you play Dr. Phil, standout, then you write it like uh the Sean Garrett the Pen and the Dream. That's exactly how. Then in the moment, they might realize, yeah, oh shit, yeah, this whole five years was a lie, or I was the side chick. Or, oh yeah, that's that's deep.
SPEAKER_01:And then, you know, like I'm gonna be, you know, this is a great platform to be whatever you want. You can be vulnerable, you can be this, right? And so it's been times where I fucked up, like in relationships or situationships and shit like that. So now I'm able to write the part where I fucked up. Right. You know what I'm saying? And just like bring the shit to life. And you'll hear some of that on this on this new album that uh, what a time. Um you'll hear some of that where we got the guy talk about how he fucked up, he gotta make it right, or he fucked up, but like it's a reason why he fucked up. You led me to this fuck up. Right. Not saying that it's right, but you led me to this shit.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? No, because it's it's it's all persp it's all those perspectives. And that's the good thing about you, is you super, you super non-biased, like unbiased about shit. Like, you know what I mean? As long as I know you, yeah, you you a straight shooter. You know what I mean? You know, if the if the man is on is the man is on bullshit, he on bullshit. If the woman's on bullshit, she on bullshit.
SPEAKER_01:That's like when we do the panels, like the all the times we did the panels, I'll be like, look, I'm not fresh and fit. You know what I'm saying? Like, uh, like I could tell when a guy's doing wrong, I could tell when a woman's doing wrong. Whoever's doing wrong, I'm just like, I'm gonna call you on your shit. You know what I'm saying? If it's me, then I'm doing wrong, I'm gonna call me on my shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm not fucking perfect. You know what I'm saying? I don't expect for anybody to be fucking perfect. I I I expect for you guys to come on here, talk your shit, of course, because I know you want to get your clips, but at the same time, which you're horrible. Women are horrible. When you try to do that shit, that shit is terrible. That shit is fucking terrible. Like, yeah, don't try to be viral, just be you, and then we can make you viral. You know what I'm saying? Like trying to be viral never works. Yeah, it's I went viral, not trying. Yeah, exactly. Like a lot of times it'll be girls that be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't, I'm not a prostitute, or I don't strip, I don't do this, blah, blah, blah. And then like the people or people see them out in person.
SPEAKER_00:And they'll be like, I thought this girl says she's on hold. She walks through. I've been seeing her walking through my job for like two days. Like, she, you know, she's always sitting at the bar.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But she's always going up and down to the towers and shit.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I'm saying? Or, you know, this girl, I don't do OnlyFans, but then like I got people in the inbox sending me OnlyFans. Like, this girl's a liar, you know?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, man. It's a lot of a lot of women uh I mean, because you know, I know I know this is very, very nice set that we have here, but uh, this is Las Vegas. Yeah. So it goes down.
SPEAKER_01:And then, you know, I had guys come on here, they'll cap a little bit or whatever, but I don't really bring too many guys out because like they like to me, unless it's like a one-on-one, yeah. Like, to me, a lot of guys, they'll try to act a different way in front of the females, thinking that they're gonna get the females and shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:And still doing that is is nasty.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's nasty work. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like, if you just try to, I mean, you can't try to, I mean, there's there's no more impressing the hoes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna tell you how to press the hoes. This is free game. Always get free game, right? If you want to impress women, just be cool. I was just about to say, like, just be cool. Just be yourself, be cool, put yourself first, go get some money. Right. If you get some money, you can get anybody you want. Facts. You know, whether they're there for pure intentions or their alternate motives and shit like that. But if you want to get women, that's the easiest thing to me, right? I'm a 6'3, decent-looking guy. Not no. I'm 6'4, I swear he's taller than me. No, to boots, to boots and the hat. Yeah, there you go. You know what I'm saying? If you want to get women, look, you just smell good, fucking look decent, be cool, don't be too thirsty, and just have, you know, being your own or no, man.
SPEAKER_03:Because it's it's like this is what uh I need people to really understand that that happened with this whole podcasting thing. What happened with the whole podcasting thing is is you know, we from the era where these conversations matter, and only because the world got shut down, everybody finally got shut down enough to turn to their significant other or whoever and said, Let's have a conversation. Right. So now we came up on this, you know what I'm saying? Our culture, playing cards, barbecues, sitting down talking. We didn't need these apparatuses. No. Okay. So now that everybody doing this, it's like now you got to distinguish what's really solid and what's not really solid. Because can you really just sit and just have an unfiltered uh organic conversation? I just say it because that word gets tossed around for too much, but can you just do like like what we're doing right now?
SPEAKER_01:Nah, most people can't they can't do that shit. And and that's the thing, is like uh the bullshit gets exposed. Right. You can only pause shit so much before you know you start smelling the bullshit. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:And so um but you was innovative. I I just I just want to say real quick, you was innovative when it came to Vegas because you were the first person that was doing different podcasts, um, shows, interviews, what have you, at different locations. He was the first one that I seen doing that, and that was one of the things that I was like, that's fire. And he was doing three, three separate shows. He had his regular show that he was doing, it's basically four, because I can pull up the other shit that you were doing on the side. Yeah, but I'll leave you alone there. But he had the first one, which is the original joint, then you had the after hours, then he had champagne talk. So it's like I always wanted to link up with people that were multifaceted, you know what I'm saying? So is is but since she's so low-key, I gotta give him his flowers because I'm the guy that runs around and does all that type of stuff. No, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:That's what we was gonna get on too.
SPEAKER_03:Like, you're one of the first persons to tell everybody this motherfucker go on every podcast.
SPEAKER_01:So this is the difference between, like, you know, I know that we get along and shit like that, but this is the difference between me and like he's always out. Like, you don't know what he does, but he's always out. You don't know when he sleeps, but it's all like if you look at the Instagram, it's like I call it the like the rice tickers and shit. Right. Like you just see it's like it's like times that I tell him, like, hey dog, I hope you know that I'm probably not gonna repost this shit because I gotta repost like that. I just tag him so he knows I'm and so like he like he's a person like that he people know him. Like, do you you never like this is one thing I never seen. I never seen him drive, and I and I never seen and I never seen him not in front of a camera. You know what I'm saying? Like he I didn't drive, and I didn't drive here, so he's always somewhere and never drives. He like when I first met him, he had a fucking chauffeur or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, my people miss my dog for that. Hey, my my my mom uh said used to tell people I was the first Uber before Uber, and all my partners used to be like, this nigga skyfall.
SPEAKER_01:He's just like, I'm like, this nigga just pulled up out the backseat. They opened the door.
SPEAKER_03:I'm like, Oh, yeah, yeah. You remember that? Yeah, no, that's my dog. I'm the party. They gotta call me when you're high school. You gotta call me, and then all my friends we get dressed at my spot. I got out the clothes I got all the clothes. I'm not gonna be, I'm not one of those that, oh, I got all the clothes, you can't get dressed. You can only wear one outfit at a time. Just go ahead. So we all look fly. I want the whole team. That's true.
SPEAKER_01:But you you remember how you feel. Yeah, you know, like I'm more the low-key guy. Like, I'm the one that has like all the mystique and shit. Like, I I don't barely post me. Like uh I post motivational quotes and shit like that. 100% and like other people's shit, whatever. And if I post somebody else's thing, I'm only gonna post it like once. They get one post maybe for the day or for the week or whatever, and that's it. You know what I'm saying? Like, but for me, like, you know, I I sell like mystique because I'm I'm an out of the way type of dude. No, 100%. And then, like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:But you but see, you you both. So is it well, that's what fucked my head up. Because that's true. Yeah. But then met you now, known you almost six, seven, eight years. So it's like, it's like the he got you got personality out the wild. No, that's but what's your phrase? You said you're the popular introvert. Yeah, the popular introvert. So, first off, I've never heard this phrase in my fucking life. Second off, it's genius. Third off, it's true. So it's like he's got the popularity, you know how to talk, you know to hold your own, but you can be ducked off. But I'm about to be more like you, you know what I'm saying? I'm hustling to be seen. Uh I'm grind, uh, I'm grinding to disappear. So I'm in grind, hustling to be seen. That makes sense. I got I get it. It was understood. All that price is going up stuff. The price is about to be.
SPEAKER_01:You know, it's funny that you say that because um, like I was moving and stuff like that, and um, one of my partners, he was like, hey man, we got the show this weekend. I was like, damn, uh, you know, I already knew what show it was because I was like, you already invited me to it. Oh, right, right, right. And so um, I'm like, so I'm gonna try to make it, but he's like, hey, G6 is gonna be there though. And I'm like, all right, yeah, yeah, he told me. Right, right, right. He said, yeah, and this person's gonna be there, and they probably gonna be with G6. I'm like, they're gonna put, no, he said with G. Right, right. And I'm like, okay, cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like I'm gonna try to make it, but like the timing is just like, like if it was more like a night thing, then I could have made it, but like it was more of like a daytime type of, he's like, yeah, from 12 to 4 or something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, from four. It it led, but it was it was dope though. Shout out to uh Maddie Ice and the rap arena and I seen that shit.
SPEAKER_01:Like, um kind of funny. I had um this is how everything comes back around full circle. I had a couple guys that I used to coach football.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, that's what you told me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they used to coach, I used to coach football. He raps now. And uh he he I I look on Instagram, he's on there, and another kid I used to coach, he's a rapper now and shit. But let me remind you, they're in their 20s and shit. Right, right. And um, that's true. Yeah, you know, so I was like, damn, everything comes around full circle because you start seeing people on different shit. Damn, I used to coach those. I used to do business with this motherfucker. I used to, you know, woo woo-woo. I used to shake hands with that.
SPEAKER_03:That was what I that's one thing I did uh since you bring up the rapperina, that I did like about that um that event because, you know, rather it was a thousand people, however many people it was, you know what I'm saying. What was dope was is that, you know what I'm saying? I turned the jewels when we were there, and I said, I said, what's dope about this is I'm you get to go to a place in Vegas, you go in, and it gave it gave you that paid in full feel. Man, what's up, man? You know everybody, yeah. You know, you ain't gotta worry about nothing. We you know, we all, it's just that was dope, you know what I'm saying? Just everybody, you know. I don't know if you was talking about Rico, but shouts out to Rico. He killed it. I was just about to say too. It wasn't Rico, but it was people that's gonna be. Okay, got you. Got to Wavy, everybody that was there, you know, shouts out to them, you know, Bonnie Drip who ended up winning and stuff, you know what I'm saying? Shouts out to Dylan, shouts out to everybody that really did their thing. But I just thought that was dope, you know what I'm saying, as far as somebody that can put together something, everybody just having a good time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, having a good genuine, genuine. Because I think um I'm going through that that chapter in my life right now, man, because um, I mean, come on, man, what haven't I done? You know what I'm saying? And I'm and I'm saying that like what's next, right? And I'm saying that with as least as little ego as possible, you know, like not even trying to go crazy. But it's like um, I remember my my guy Thompson was like, um, he was like, man, we just gotta get back to doing regular stuff. Like, you gotta get back to doing regular stuff. And it's like, like, even when you hear people like saying your name and stuff like that, um, Thompson said, Hey, do y'all remember, you know, the guy that y'all talking about? Like, that's our friend. Like, Gio's our friend. G6 is our friend, G's our friend. So it's like, and it's crazy, because you like I said, I'll be going through a lot, but it's crazy when he said that. As crazy as it sounds, it's like I I forgot it because sometimes in the midst of this, I forget. Like, you know, you be be going back and forth with niggas over dumb shit. And when he said it, it was like, well, damn, I know they forgot. Cause I forgot. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. You know what I'm saying? So it was it's just like, you know what I'm saying? He was just like, gee, you know, I'm looking at people now, and they don't even do regular stuff no more, man. We gotta get back to because we did everything, you know what I'm saying? Like we did everything, and and and trying to do something to make yourself feel like you've accomplished something is defeating the point of doing it. You know what I'm saying? That's yeah, remember we were talking about the whole travel thing, and we're not gonna talk to you, you can travel anywhere. But remember we were talking about the psychology of it, and we know why women like to do it and people like to do it. But if you don't want to travel just because that is you, you're a traveler, this is who you were, and this is just the person you are, cool. But if you have to go somewhere to feel like you've accomplished air quote something, I don't know. I've never been like that. And then it's like, look, you're in the United States, look, we can be in any LA, Vegas. You want to go to China, we can go to China down here. You yeah, yeah, yeah. It damn near can get every experience, and I'm not knocking traveling and stuff like that, but you get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:I do. I think that um, you know, like you like we just talking about earlier, it all depends on what you're doing it for, right? You know what I'm saying? Because some people like they do it for the vanity, right? Sometimes you get lost in the vanity because like that's not you, you get what I'm saying? And so then you got people that just do it because they're just doing it, like in organic. The shit is organic, and when the shit is organic, like it makes life way more easier, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of people, like, they're they're they're fucking mentals fucked up. Man, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:I and and and and and hey, to be fair, fucked up mental people, mine ain't the greatest all the time. Like that shit's a everyday battle, you know what I'm saying? Just living this life, like you know, and to me, I see like just all the things that maybe you didn't cry about or the things that you didn't lash out about now, later now at this age, I'm going through. You know what I'm saying? So, hey man, like I said, I I I used to feel the same way because we we we used to be like, everybody want to talk about mental health and jump over the mental health thing, like because it got overblown, but yeah, you know, I started going through real shit, and then it's like I I'm gonna be nice. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Well, no, it's just like some people when they get into that mental health bag and shit, um, they don't, they're not doing it because it's like genuine, you know what I'm saying? And they're doing it because they're just doing it because they're trying to ride that wave. Oh, yeah. And so, you know, like every, you know, I say it on every show, I I tell people like people should probably get therapy. You know what I'm saying? I you don't have to go talk to somebody, but like, just just like this right here. This is therapy. This is therapy. You know what I'm saying? Like, like this is another reason why I do the fucking podcast, is because this shit is like fucking therapy. Like just talking to people.
SPEAKER_03:You seem like somebody that people could come to before this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's who people always hand me like venting and shit. I'll listen. You know, even if I don't want to, you know, um, I'll listen and I'll try to get feedback. I don't really have too much sympathy, so I can't sympathize all the time. But it was an instance, like recently, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, on some business type shit that got like kind of turned into like life shit. Like I was just going through it, just going through it. Right. And um, and then like I was thinking, like, I tell people, and we talk about this, uh I was telling people like, look, man, like having a whole bunch of women is cool. You know, but when you get there and you done it, like that's not it's no longer what you're looking for. It's not the black. Like if you got women, but they can't like identify when you're going through something, right? Then, or if you have a woman, she can't identify when you're going through something, and you can't just like she can't just take the the fucking the shit away. Like, I'm I'm not looking for you to be my healer, right? But what I'm looking for is you like to let me know that, okay, like I know I got the world on my fucking shoulders and shit. But at the end, at the end of the day, I can have solace and peace. Hell yeah. You know, and we could we could turn it off for a little bit and we could try to figure out some shit, and then like I can get back to putting the world back on my shoulders and shit. And like sometimes we get caught up in everything else, and so then if we don't got that person like that, it's going back to the mental, it'll fuck with our mental because we trying to we're trying to carry everything and juggle everything and we can't be vulnerable, you know what I'm saying? We can't be, I'm not telling you as a man.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because we don't know. We we like we we never taught we never taught that we're learning it now, trying to do that stuff now. So no, you you're cooking a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's like you know, I think man should have a woman that they could. I'm not you you should never be a hundred percent vulnerable because then she's gonna look like you, like you willy lump, lump head ass nigga. But uh but you know, vulnerable with certain shit where like like I said, she just you know brings just a little bit of peace and she don't even have to do shit to bring pieces, it's like just listen to me.
SPEAKER_03:No, I need you. Yeah. Now I may not never need you. Obviously, that's being be being facetious. Of course, at some point I'm gonna need you. Yeah, but just be there when I need you. For the most part, since we're the men, we're not really going to necessarily need you. Yeah, but my thing is is I don't want the woman to necessarily need me 100% either. Yeah, neither. I want you to do your thing, I do my thing. And if we want each other, I think us wanting each other is a little bit more valuable than us, quote unquote, needing each other. Maybe we'll need each other from the want, but I don't want to just need you and then you just need me. That's that ain't the vibes.
SPEAKER_01:All I just wanted to feel is appreciated and desired. Yeah, you know, so that's all that all comes with the respect. You know what I'm saying? All that love shit is cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But um, like, so women uh it's funny because like the pretty girls that I dated or been in relationships, like, why are you fucking with a seven or something? Right, right, right, right. We talked about that. Yeah, I'm like, look, I take a solid seven any day that could have that wit, rather than take a nine or a ten that like I can't, like it's just that's the only value though.
SPEAKER_03:Cause the the we talk about that all the time. That's the only value. And okay, once you're a beautiful model, once you're a beautiful actress, once you're a beautiful whatever, the value, okay, we are intimate, we have some good times. Where's the value after that? There's there's it's probably not gonna be much value after that, and then after that, then we gotta sit back and go peel back the layers. Who is this person? You know, it all of that type of stuff. It's like nobody got time to do all that type of stuff unless the value every relationship right now is almost like how the labels is looking at an artist. You just gotta show up ready. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think a lot of women, and I is I'm not hammering, I'm not getting on women, I'm just gonna blame. I blame men all the time. Yeah, uh, because we're gonna get on men next. Uh but you see you got on man first. You said they were simps. Yeah, a lot of guys just they just simp out and it's not good. Um it makes the the marketplace fucked up, you know. But um it's uh it's a lot of women that only think that their value is within the vagina. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like look, listen, pussy is easy. Like, I don't have to have a relationship to get pussy. Nope. You know, and if you do's like if you know, if you know, if you do's like such caliber, like that comes easy. Like I I could send out three checks like the bat signals and shit. Hey, they come in, they'll come to the studio type shit.
SPEAKER_03:You know, and it's like, damn, man, it the fact that it's that easy, yes, because you know, you on that level, but it's just like the fact that it's still that easy, there's a part of you, because you have more you a morality-based person, you're off it. The easier it does it, that's not an allure, that's not a draw for you. It's not a draw no more. Right. That's not that's not alluring.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I chased that shit in like the 20s and so uh, you know, and like and so like you know, the thing that a lot of times when women they get mad at me, like you're an attention seeker. No, I'm not an attention seeker, it's just that you're not giving me the right amount of attention. You know what I'm saying? So if you're not giving me the right amount of attention, I move around, and especially if I bring it up to you, um, I'm gonna move around because that's just that's just me. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like, but see, you said it, you basically said it like so a woman can understand it. So you so when you say it like that, it's like, yeah, that's how y'all be saying it. They don't like it when it's delivered directly that way. Exactly. It's like, oh, cool, well, you're not giving me that type of attention. Oh, cool, you're not giving me that type of attention either. Yeah, what? Like, what you said it, I just said it directly right back to you. Like, they don't want to hear that.
SPEAKER_01:And they and sometimes if you're not around the right woman, they think that attention is like just blowing you up, whatever, whatever. Nah. Attention is making sure the shit that on my back end is good. Like, for example, you got your G6 metaverse, let's say that, right? And so your girl giving you attention is making sure the back end of the shit is done. Right. Making sure, like, if you go to her spot, your spot, or if you guys live together, that is is a is a sanctuary, right? And so, um, if you can't if you can't call where you lay your head at a sanctuary, then that's just a trap. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:You're not lying. I just told my guy Thompson yesterday that you know, I you know I didn't have a dad, so it's very few uh few gems that I remember that, you know, the men that was in my life that I would um, you know, they would tell me. And I was just telling Thompson the other day, um my um my aunt Janice, she married uh Keith. Keith used to work for, he used to be the, he was head of um creative affairs at ASCAP. So he had like a pager, like he had two pagers, huh? Yeah, he uh look, he had pagers, and I think that's what the the most colour.
SPEAKER_00:Did he have ball headed or did he have a pager? No, he had dreads.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay, okay, yeah. Most Keith there are either ball, they have dreads, or they had never a fade. They never had a fade.
SPEAKER_03:No, he never had a fade. He got he had dreads, he got a beard. Uh shouts out to my guy, Keith. But um, he always told me, he said straight up, he said, gee, and this was when him and my aunt, they weren't, you know, they didn't, they didn't make it, they ended up getting a divorce or whatever, but this is before this had happened. And he said, uh, he said, gee, it's two things you never wanna, you never want to do. And I'll never forget it. He said, you never want to work a job that you just don't, you just don't love. Like you just don't never want to do something you just don't love. Right. Don't do something you just don't love. He was living his purpose, he loved doing that, you know, music and stuff. And then he said, and you never want to just wake up, and the first thing every person does is you wake up and you look at your wife or you work look at your significant other. And he said, You never would just want to look at her, and you're just like, What the fuck am I looking at? He said, You just never want to do that. And I I was 19 when he said it. And I was like, I don't know, it stuck with me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's game. Um, speaking of, that's some good game. Like, they got nuggets that, like, you know, you met my uncle, um uh big aunt. Oh, yeah, for sure. Um yeah, he uh he used to drop a lot of jewels, and sometimes I got right away, sometimes I didn't, you know, because again, I didn't have my dad and my but I had a lot of solid male role models and shit, you know, a lot of male figures and shit, like you know, my grandpas and shit. Um you know, my uncle, some of my uncles, some of my uncles are junkies and shit. But you know, you're you know, everybody got a drunk uncle and they families. They got a drunk and a and a dope head, you know what I'm saying? And so uh like he owed he sent me with a lot of different jewels that like like Keith, he sent me with a lot of different jewels that um that that really stuck with me. And one of the jewels that really stuck with me, I remember we was driving, he's like, Look, every three years a man gotta reinvent himself. Show me that one. And I said, Yeah, that's that's dope. And he said, and another jewel was like, look, you build yourself, put yourself first, and don't get lost behind women. You know what I'm saying? Because you're gonna meet good, you're gonna get you're gonna meet great women, you're gonna meet good women, you're gonna meet amazing women. But at the end of the day, if you get lost behind that and you lose yourself, then you have nobody's gonna take you serious. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, get your shit right first. Don't overhust He was the same dude that told me don't over hustle. And that is shit didn't stick with me. Like, don't oh like don't burn yourself out from a whole bunch of different hustles because you know, coming up, especially as a youngster, like I was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? Just make it shit. I don't even want no when I fucking slept. Like, be honest with you, like now that I think back at it. And um, where were you?
SPEAKER_03:I needed that advice.
SPEAKER_01:Man, we was every time we driving, he'd be like, nephew, put some boys to man on her. He's listening to Boys to Man or Tank or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:It's funny Keith's always listening to uh 112.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, see, you know, they always listen to some RB shit, dropping jewels and shit, you know what I mean? See, you know, like that's that's that's good game, you know. And you don't all that shit doesn't resonate until you get older and you can start living life. Speaking of speaking of good game, like I watch your son, you know what I'm saying? Like, I I like your son because he has my last name. His name is my last name. He's like, whatever. You know, anywho. I personally Jordan Smith, man.
SPEAKER_03:So uh the mean guest prospect.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck it. I watched it where he was like middle school and now he's in high school, shit like that. So crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Taller than me, taller than both of us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, man. I'm like, god damn, he sprouted out and everything, you know. So being a dad, yeah. Uh let's talk about that. Like doing all the shit, like you say, you you never had your father in your life, you know what I'm saying? He was a one one-man band show. Like one woman band show, you had your mom. For sure. You know, once, you know, try to give you the best life. But sometimes, you know, every boy needs a male role model or a father in his life. Nah, for sure, for sure. You know, and going back to that, you know, I see you guys, you know, y'all be shooting who's, you know, always at his games and shit like that, whatever, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, for sure. Like, um, you know, I mean, my son, my son is everything. But before I answer this question, I gotta let me do it the right way because every time I get asked a question um about how I raise my son and stuff like that, I have to apologize that I always forget to say that the means for me to do all of the things that I do is thanks to God and the mother of my child. Shout out to Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Shout out shouts out to Jocelyn. I can't, you know what I'm saying, I can't do any of the things that I'm doing because how can I run around run around and do all these million things without her being able to, you know, take care of take care of our son. So definitely shouts out to you, Jocelyn, for sure, for sure. Because you know, it was funny because uh last time uh we had a because she was like, You did a great interview, and she was like, So everybody says, How do you do it all? And I say all these things, and she's like, You forgot how you do it. She's right. You know what I'm saying? When you're right, you're right. So my thing is you you gotta you gotta be fair. So Yeah, because some some And I gotta I got a great child's mother. She's a good one. So you know, you yeah, so you gotta shot salute those because Lord Jesus, it could be a whole lot worse.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, because my son's mom, she's she's a good mom. Sometimes she gets a lot of times she gets some nerves and she does bonehead shit that we have to fix later on. Of course, of course. But you know, overall, you know what I'm saying? Like she does her best as a mom and it makes it easier for me.
SPEAKER_03:Overall. So I just wanted to answer that succinctly, very, very official. But um, yeah, when it comes to just everything that I gotta do, you know, as far as my son, it's it's just a lot of things, man, because I was there the whole time um from beginning, you know what I'm saying? You know, a lot, remember, we talked about a lot of men weren't with the mother of their child while she was pregnant. Some guys got to just, you know, skeeting her and leaving, and they get the kid and they show back up, you know, going through the whole process of all that type of stuff. And then, you know, didn't work out, what have you, we're still good. And then around 2016, that's when I moved to Vegas. So it was like around 10, where it was like I had to lay the foundation, and then it was like, okay, I gotta do what I gotta do so I can give you the things that I didn't have as well. And I also don't want to be all up under you because from what I know, and no one talks about this, and you know, I don't give a fuck. We use a free platform, we're gonna talk our shit. A lot of people that I know that had great fathers turn into be bitch ass niggas. And I don't understand it. That is true, it throws me off. Like you had all of the guidance, but so I'm a great father. So I'm like, if I'm always up under you and you don't understand or get a little taste of doing things on your own, you might turn out softer than you need to be at this and the third. So I need to uh just wanted to find a way to balance it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you have Tim understanding I've been at all your games for the first 15 years of this set and the third, every single deciding third. Now, when you're in high school, I need you to go for 30 and you look in the rafters and I'm not there. Or your mom's not there, and you still gotta go for 30. And no one's there, and you still gotta go for 30. Okay, we'll be at the next game or the other game. So it's just, you know, training your mind because at the end of the day, everything is psychology. Yeah. So, you know, that that was first, but um that was that was dope. Then getting him to North, he got to high school, did his thing last two years, a little rocky. I almost uh fucked up his coach because his coach was out of pocket doing some weird shit. I I asked this coach a question, like, just tell me why you stopped playing my son, because he wasn't feeling good, and there was a problem, and he said, you know, ask your son. I'm like, listen, I'm in front of you. We men. Yeah. You know what I mean? We're not gonna do that. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, it gets a little tricky because like a lot of times, like I learned a lot of coaches, they're they're not actually coaching. They're doing the things for accolades and you know, and or trying to fulfill their lack thereof.
SPEAKER_03:Because once we did the the research on him, he played VAR average note zero points and stuff. So it was like he shouldn't even be no head cover. Look, every high school out there, if the person went to your school and was on VAR and averaged zero, don't bring them back ten years later to coach the goddamn team. It just don't make no fucking sense.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, that goes to show that a lot of times they didn't have the applicants that they needed. So they they go.
SPEAKER_03:It was a bad situation. But I got him up out of that. Um, you know, last year, I didn't put hands on him out. I played, he was an Asian once again. He was at a he's in Torrance, it's Asians and stuff like that you know. Yeah, no knock to the Asians. No knock to the Asians, but we're playing basketball. Yeah, so I grew up in Carson. Torrance is right there. Right, right, exactly. You are you totally understand. So now he's at Rancho Dominguez, uh, you know, good back when you know Trevor Reez on there, then. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So he's doing he's there, um, he's doing his thing, and he's on the AAU team. He he plays with uh um Kawhi Leonard's son. Uh yeah, so you know he's he's doing his thing. Irison Jordan Smith. Uh uh definitely, you know. So uh That's dope. Shouts out to the athletic director of Pepperdine, shouts out to my guy uh Jason Whiteman, who's uh, you know, he's got a connection with them. So, you know, we just uh Pepperdine is a good school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Malibu, he gets to stay there. Yep. You know, and you know, you don't need to you don't need to average 90 points to go there. Just do your thing, be solid. He's a good looking kid. His name's Irish and Jordan Smith. Let's go, let's handle the NIO situation and you know, let's just have a good idea.
SPEAKER_01:Give him some bread in his pocket. Put some bread in his pocket, man. I think that's one of the biggest things now. Like, I mean, being that you are in a management, um, is now these athletes, they got the NIO, they could get in high school, middle school, college. Um, when we were growing up, that that's the that's the that's the pivot right now.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the the pivot is is because since you brought up my son, is the pivot is is the management's been doing great, we're killing it. But at the end of the day, we're in we're gonna always transition or pivot into more of a marketing situation, and then that sector, then I'm gonna pivot into going from Ari Gold. Everybody knows I love Entourage, shouts out to Mark Wahlberg. I'm gonna pivot into Jerry McGuire and just be a sports agent, get my son into the league, fall back with Terrence, do a couple shows, we can get some Emmys, then I can get my Grammy with Terrence as well, we can do a Grammy. Yeah, because you know I want the E-Got. I want the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar, and the Tony. So that's that's my goal. I get the E-Got, my son gets into gets into college. I mean, the NBA, you know, God is the greatest, but let's just make sure that he gets to college. I'm good.
SPEAKER_01:And it's crazy because like in reality, uh biologically, I only have one child, but you know, it's kids that's that don't share the same DNA as me. That's you know what I'm saying. That gotcha. Like, I'm gonna I'm always gonna protect. You know, even even some of my players, like, you know what I'm saying, like I'm always gonna protect. You, yeah, you know, you got heart like that.
SPEAKER_03:And you know, you know, like you you got like I don't want to talk about your ladies, but what you just seem the type that if you were cool with the woman that had a child seemed like you're always talking about.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to put you out there, but no, that that's exactly how you like the child the child or the children didn't do anything. Like maybe me and their mom didn't. Yeah, yeah. Fuck them got them kids.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, but uh I had one kid for a reason. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_01:I I thought I thought I did everything right, and then like then, you know, the shit comes around full circle and shit like that. You know, you meet people, um, you know, you get with people, and then you coach kids, you know what I'm saying, all the all the nine shit like that. So, you know, I try to be available for, you know, children, especially the ones that like the their fathers is not really active, you know what I'm saying? Like, you you don't have to look at me as a father, but look at me as um, look at me as a a person that you can look up to. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna give you some free game, I'm gonna tell you when you're wrong, but I'm gonna congratulate you when you right. You know what I'm saying? And we'll go from there. You know, if you want to come learn how to do what the fuck I do, look, like I tell my son, I tell anybody that that's shit, everybody's my son. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:When you the coach, yeah. I used to coach with uh I used to coach younger kids and stuff. You seem like that viral, like the Did you see that viral clip when the when the kid was like, man, don't quit the team. He was like, man, don't quit the don't quit the team, man. You know what I'm saying? Because if you do this, man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that's that shit had me emotional. Yeah because I I it's like I wanted to, I wish I had something like that. And what was dope about when I got to press my my son's coach is my son was just right there, and it's like, he don't give a fuck. He just was like, yeah, like my dad got to tell my coach what the issue was. I never had that. I always had, we all had coach issues with your coach, and the coach is a bitch ass motherfucker. Your mom can't, your mom can't go talk to the coach. Yeah. You need your dad to be like, hey yo, what the fuck is up? Like, I never had that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because when I saw that thrown in that motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03:I ain't gonna lie to you, yeah. I ain't gonna lie to you. When I saw that shit, that shit had nigga emotional. So and you seem like one of one of them type, because you know you tall, and you played football, so it's like these kids are not, you know, it's just I'm just like you managed to be.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I'm saying? If it's football, basketball, whatever, like if if there's something wrong going on, you know, um, I'm gonna speak on I'ma speak on ABF. But at the same time, at the same time, like, if they fucking up, by all means, like, they need to be disciplined. 100%. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just how it goes because like with coaching or being a male figure to everybody, it's all about is life lessons. I'm I'm not giving you lessons on this fucking I play chess, you know what I'm saying? So I'm giving you life lessons and shit.
SPEAKER_03:You play chess like shit, because my thing is you play chess and you just play chess, meaning you just play it. There was no that he didn't prompt me like, yo, gee, I'm about to start coaching. You just start coaching. Yeah, like it's not like oh I'm about to start doing pot. You just start doing it. Like, and you know, same with me, you know, I just start doing stuff. And you're like, oh, she's doing this now. Like, we don't really do the have to do all of that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, you were you a doer, you never do nothing else. So, like I said, salute to that and and coaching and giving back and you know with the community and all that type of stuff. Well, that's why I try to align my body. You seem like one of the motherfuckers that would have definitely gone viral. That's why I would definitely want to uh bring you along to like do skits and stuff, like because you got the vibes, like you know what I'm saying? You could come to skits with me and go viral like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, just like that fucking paternity court shit. Like you called me out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So okay, talk about that because we didn't even talk about that on your show. Let's talk about that for a quick second. Yeah. I booked my guy on this paternity show, and it damn near got 100,000 views. Yeah, probably by now. Yeah. How was the experience?
SPEAKER_01:It was cool, you know. Like, you know, so I met the two uh women, and you know, we chopping it up. We kind of running behind on schedule and shit, and I'm like, damn, like, you know what I'm saying? And like I'm trying, like, this the role that uh the producer gave me, like, it was kind of corny. And he's like, you gotta be a pastor. I'm like, let me put my spin on it, let me, you know. So I add a little bit of my shit. Breezy, right? Yeah. I had a little bit of my shit, but then, you know, that's when I really realized that like people of different cultures, like, you know, he I mean he's black, but he's more like on the African, you know, side, you know, it's different. Yeah. And so um, they they look at humor and different and stuff different from how we look at it. You know what I'm saying? So um I think he's African or Haitian, one of them. Um, you know, I don't want to get it fucked up. Uh but uh they hate that shit. Yeah, they hate it's like calling a Mexican a Cuban or something like that. They fucking hate that shit.
SPEAKER_03:We was talking about that on the last one when you were talking about the Jamaicans. Yeah, yeah, you were they hate this shit, man. They hate that shit, you're right.
SPEAKER_01:Um his humor was a little bit different from my shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? So like I'm like, dog, this is gonna sound corny as shit coming like this, and you know what I'm saying? Let me make you more realistic. Right, right, right. So like people can gravitate a little bit more.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, this nigga thugged it out, and then after he thugs it out, he gets mad. Once again, I'm sure you didn't even look at it. Like you didn't because it he just lived his life, he doesn't.
SPEAKER_01:I watched it, I sent it out to people and I just that was it. That's it. Yeah, I'm not really posting it.
SPEAKER_03:So that's that's what happened with me when my shit hit. Yeah, literally, I did the fucking shit, and my partner Jordan, shouts out to Jordan, he just sent me the video and said, good video. Didn't say views, didn't do nothing. I clicked it, six million views on the first day. So then after it did that, and then like I guess, then I was like, oh shit. That's on Facebook. Then I went looked at YouTube. Then I was like, oh shit, 10 million on YouTube. Then I went and looked at TikTok. I think that's when you start learning about the the game, because it's like the everybody on TikTok, I think I got I think I got another like 10, 15 million on TikTok, but then everybody starts making a different TikTok account just so they can repurpose your content so they can get the views and then the ads. Yeah, so that's how they do it. So with going viral outside of you know lucrative, all that good stuff, I'm learning, I'm learning that. Like you know, you're learning the game behind the virality, which is not a word, but the uh the whole viral.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like when I look at Yeah, when you went, yeah, yeah. It's the it's the most, it was, I mean, it it broke a record. I mean, had to. It was the most one that day. But they do views all the time. Like I said, shots out to network media. I'm not even gonna take it away. And like I said, I went on their set, I'm you know, I'm an actor with them. Um, I you know, they have all these extravagant dope sets and stuff like that. It was in a courtroom. So if anybody wants to go Google uh cop tries to arrest judge, you'll see me. Now, if you Google that hashtag, now that was that happened to be almost three weeks ago. Now it's almost at three, four billion views. I mean, just as a totality, but but and once again, that can anybody even know that my team did their best, but yeah. But no, you're right, because it's like I said, there's all there's other ones. I mean, network media, they average 10 billion views a month. So let me not, you know, whatever. No, no, no. And he and uh, what's dope about it is I won't cut you off, but what's dope about it is is that I forget that he's you've experienced it. So me talking about it isn't just me over here talking, trying to flex me going viral or whatever. And you can't practice going viral. I think it's oxymoronic to say, like going viral means you don't know, you have no control over it, you didn't plan it. Now, some people can plan going viral, but they already have hundreds of thousands of viewers and stuff like that. I don't have that on my my personal platforms.
SPEAKER_01:Well, let's speak to the um to all the shows that you did. Right. And um because you did a lot of shows and you deal with that.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, this is the best uh platform I've ever had. Thank you. Because last time he last time he did that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It definitely is though. Definitely is. Let me talk my shit.
SPEAKER_03:He was the first one that was sponsored. Hey, Maddie, he was sponsored by Bel Air before y'all now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Sneak. We had Sneak apparel. Yeah, you know, shout out to Sneak. Um Sneak's coming out here for the uh one of the fashion shows, I believe. Yeah, I gotta get we gotta redo the interview. Yeah, for sure. Um, you know, we had a couple other little sponsors and shit like that. Um, even with like Todd Zach, like when his when he sold his album, shout out to Todd. Yeah, for sure. You know, he sold his album, he's coming out with another one. Um made a lot of money off the candles. Yeah, like candles and candles is too. He he's you know, I get around people that like that's that's innovators and shit. You know what I'm saying? That that's entrepreneurs, innovators, and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:Talented. I mean, Todd's talented.
SPEAKER_01:He's very talented. He's gonna be on the album too. Um he has two, what I think two songs in there, two or three songs. Are you on the album? Um actually I am. Me rapping. Not writing, singing, rapping. Of course, of course, is you know, but it's me rapping. Okay. It's um, you know, I gotta he still won't play me nothing with him on it. Yeah. Don't worry, because I uh my you know, I'm more of a perfectionist when it comes to certain things. So like I can't like if it's a me, I can't give you I can't give a rough. You know what I'm saying? If it's a like this is Friday.
SPEAKER_03:Like, when can I come to your house? Like, nigga, you can't, you can't. When can I come fuck up?
SPEAKER_01:I gotta give out a rough because once I send that out, you know if it if it's out there, you know what I'm saying? And so um shit better be Dr.
SPEAKER_03:Dre, man. It better not be no damn T Tocks.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, man, it's uh it's some fucking next month? November? I won't I would like for it to because you know the music industry closed at the end of December.
SPEAKER_03:Right. You know what I'm saying? So and you already know the offices is finicky right now, this year, October.
SPEAKER_01:You know. So like that's why I'm trying to get it before, like even well before Thanksgiving. Because I'm trying to have it out this year. Because if you put it out during that time.
SPEAKER_03:And then just market it next year, yeah. Yeah, because it And I got you, you already know I'll help whatever.
SPEAKER_01:If all that shit, people people fail to realize, and we could talk about this real quick. Fucking timing is everything. So if I put something out on this that time, it might not even get really nominated or attraction or whatever to the following physical year. Right, right, right, right. Or special. Quarters are important, like it's Grammy season right now, right?
SPEAKER_03:Aren't the Grammys like right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, this is Grammys right now. They're getting Grammys. They already already had to have their music out. Right. The first two quarters. Right. And they already got nominated.
SPEAKER_03:And so what you're saying is, okay, so like right now, um, one of my one of my friends, Candace Wakefield, shouts out to Candace. She's doing the little Grammy campaign thing, but I'm pretty sure she got nominated for this year's Grammy last year. Like she's what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, so people don't realize it's like always the same thing with like podcasts. Like, so, you know, I'm an analytics guy and stuff, so I get analytics and it shows like what position I'm in in in Nevada, what position I'm in in here, what position I'm in in this country, you know, in the West Coast, that this and that. And um, and so you gotta make your final push before a certain amount of time because now all this is generated. If it's after a certain time, like after, let's say, Black Friday, then it counts all this stuff starts kind of as the next year and shit. Oh, right, right, right. You're right. You're right. That's true. Um that's what a lot of people don't know. It's like they'd be like, oh, put it up, but like now you gotta play the timing game.
SPEAKER_03:But that's why everybody's scrambling. I'm noticing, I'm noticing a lot of people are scrambling. I was telling Jules about that. We were talking about that the other day. I was like, because it feels like the uh pandemic when everybody was spending money on services. So, you know, somebody from me doing marketing, oh yeah, you know, because everybody had money. So it's like now at the end of the year, it's like all of you fucking artists that didn't do shit for 10 months, and now y'all trying to scrounge, do a video, or put me on a podcast G or okay, cool. You're sending me money and budgets and all that type of stuff now for this, but it's like sure, but it's it feels a bit crammy. Feels like you guys are kind of cram on this test. You're not gonna pass in 2026 if you just do this little bit now. Because I know y'all, you're gonna do this now. Exactly what's happening in January, February, you're gonna be where the fuck are you at? And then summertime, you're gonna pop back out. It's this, it and then it becomes you wonder why your algorithm is going like this. It's just a good analogy.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, you know, when um you're trying to get eligible, so you're trying to hurry up and do all your work before, you know what I'm saying? And like just to try to bring your grades back up um so you can stay eligible, like that's that's that, you know.
SPEAKER_03:But then, but okay, cool. But now, like you said, time after time, now we're grown. But we didn't learn anything. Yeah, like it's it's all fun and games and cool and this, that, and the third. But we didn't learn anything. And if we didn't learn anything, if we didn't get the data, because now at this point, now I just want to I just want to be a data analyst. Like, just call me a director in a data analysis, because I direct everything that's going on, except for this. You guys are doing a great job. But and I'm just a data analysis. Just give me the data, I will, you know, I will acclimate to the data I have, I will accommodate you based on the data I have, things like that.
SPEAKER_01:And that's another thing. Speaking of data, like like AI is like taking over a lot of people's shit.
SPEAKER_03:I just got met at AI the other day, and I'm I'm trying not to go crazy because you know me. Yeah, this shit is fucking fun.
SPEAKER_01:So it's like a gift and a curse, it's fun, and then like you could do a lot of things, but then like because but we know what it is. Essentially, it's taking X amount of jobs, X amount of people's skill, X amount of this, you know what I'm saying? And it's like it's like a gift and a curse, a catch 22. It's like a lot of these movies fucking warned us. Yeah, they did you know what I'm saying? They do. Um, they like The Matrix. Like The Matrix is a perfect movie, like all three, four. They literally warned us about a lot of this shit that's gonna go on. And then you same like relationships, life, you know, all that shit. Like, you gotta take which pill you gonna take. You know what I'm saying? Like, which part of life, which part of life, are you gonna be the one that is comfortable that's stuck, that takes this pill, that just wanna go with the flow, or you gonna be the one that's introspective that that takes this pill? It might you might have to get it out the mud, but like you your whole life is like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like it's like which pill do you take in life, you know?
SPEAKER_03:That's like that's uh the to to uh take uh uh meet Memphis Bleak, you know, he got his podcast. Memphis Bleak.
SPEAKER_01:He got two restaurants out here too.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he does? Yeah, restaurant and bar, my bad. Oh, that's fire. Restaurants are nice and Italian restaurants. Uh everybody over there, Rock Nation and shit. But um he said, man, he said motherfuckers will take that that E-pill, they'll take that Molly. He said, but they'll take every pill. The red pill, the blue. He didn't say this part, so let me add on, me uh Memphis, they'll take that red pill, they'll take that blue pill, but they won't take that reality pill. That's what that's what Memphis said. He said that everybody'll take every pill, but they don't want to take that reality pill.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's the motherfucker real pill that you need to take.
SPEAKER_01:Once you see life pass you by, then you have nothing shit to show for, and and then you, you know, comfort being comfortable is the worst thing that you could do as a man. Yes. Yeah, I mean, bad for women too. Yeah. That really bad for women, but women could kind of pivot just a little bit. They have that they have that special superpower where they could just pivot a little bit and um they could bounce back. If a man gets too comfortable, comfortable and he doesn't pivot. He's a zombie. He's as he's he's good as dead. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like he's because what it is, is it everything comes back full circle. Excuse me, to what you're saying. Um, what you were saying earlier, um purpose, walking with purpose. Um, I had a great conversation with um my guy Kenyon, you know, shouts out to Kenyon, he's over in LA at the network studios. I want to get you over there too. I was we were talking about that with Coke Studios and stuff too. But um, it's if you're not moving with purpose, like you said, and you said um people are moving with vanity, and that's why I pivoted to us talking about trying to be normal, remember? Yeah. So it's like if you're not moving with purpose and knowing that you are a vessel and knowing that, you know, it's all about, like I said, we know we ain't gonna take them to church, but at the end of the day, it's all about whatever higher power you believe in. If you believe if the higher power you believe in manifests you to believe in yourself, let's run with that. But a lot of people, they're not moving with no purpose. Like you said, move with purpose, know what you're doing and why you're doing it, or you're dead out here. You're literally dead. And I noticed that the conversation I was having with my partner, I was like, it's crazy, man, because it's like I'm so numb to life now, just based on everything. Motherfuckers is dying and I'm not feeling anything. And he told me, and we grew up in a church, well, like I said, we that's my dog. He said, he said, gee, you don't even beat yourself. Because I was starting to beat myself up out. I I don't really got a good relationship with death and stuff like that. Like, I don't really go to we talk flowers, I don't really go to funerals or nothing like that. You know, everybody different. But um, I'll beat myself up about that because it's almost like if I didn't cry for my grandma's funeral, like I feel guilty if I'm gonna cry for it just it's goofy, dumb shit, because I don't have that type of emotional intelligence when I was young or whatever. But it's like he said, he said, don't beat yourself up, G. He said, You numb just because they they dead already. They was already dead. But their life choices, whatever they were doing, they were already the zombie that we're that we're discussing. So he was like, Don't beat yourself up. They was already you didn't even, they had already been gone. And when he said that, it it it I I felt it wasn't a crazy way, but I I did feel like yeah, like damn, he right. That's kind of true.
SPEAKER_01:Um now that now that I think about that because Yeah, um, I'm kind of in the same way, but at the same time, like, especially if I don't know you, like I kind of feel like it's hard for me to.
SPEAKER_03:But this was somebody I knew, like this was somebody that we knew in that and and that and that's what they made a lot of bad choices in life. Not made bad choices. What it was was it was like it was like I was just talking to him and I said, he said, I said, so when's the last time, you know what I'm saying, you talked to this particular person? And he was just like, Man, it been over 10 years, 15, 20, uh, whatever, however long. And I was just like, damn. He said, So, gee, what's been going on with this person in their life? And I said, Well, and this is a person that was the the damn homie, you know what I'm saying? High school, you was the man, homie.
SPEAKER_01:What the fuck happened to you?
SPEAKER_03:So I mean, I just said it straight up. I was like, well, basically, you know, he was living a mid-life was mid, he was just doing this, is that in the third, you know, whatever happened, happened. He's no longer with us. And he said, gee, did you hear what you just said? He's like, at the end of the day, this person was living a midlife. And it's only it it's only prevalent because he used to this is a person we looked up to. You give it up, you know how it goes. He the person we all fuck with. Yeah. So it's like, damn, man, like you you want people to be the best version of themselves. But what he also said was is he said that people, he said, he was already dead. Or these people, these people, this is not on him, this is on general. These people are already zombies. And he was like, at the end of the day, there's not, there's nothing you can, there's nothing you can do for them because they already they've already given it up. You know what I'm saying? Like, so they they not they not looking at it the way that we're looking at it, they not playing the game by that, and they're not living for a purpose, and they stray away from God, is what he said. Because think about it. If you are the spitting image of God, what you that's what he wanted. He wants you to be great, but you don't believe in yourself, you blasphemous. Because he gave you all of the tangibles, he gave you the fly stuff. That's a good game, man. You know what I'm saying? So it's like you doing that to him. So when he said that, and then I count because can like Kenyon, just to preference this, like he was preaching when he was five years old. Like, this is this is he he was different. He's been anointed his whole time, his whole time, and he was looking at it like, gee, you gotta understand they stray away from God. But straying away from God is because you stray away from yourself and your purpose, because your purpose is God's purpose. So then I was so once he said that, I was like, and the messed up part about it is people think that God is supposed to be some almighty, ha ha ha, they don't even want to make God their fucking hype man in their life. That's what I said, and then he said, Oh, that was deep. You dumbass motherfucker. God don't got God can literally be your friend. He's not, he doesn't have to be this, duh. So it was just we was having that conversation. It's almost like people don't understand. Like, if you if you don't fulfill your purpose, I know that might have been a rant, whatever, but if you don't fulfill your purpose, let's just say you going so far away from who you supposed to be that you're never even present. Like you think you're present, but you're not even present. Like, you know what I'm saying? So we was having that kind of conversation and it was it was deep, man. It was it was deep. And what was crazy was we only had that conversation was because we chopped it up about business, and right when it was gone, I said, All right, man, I love you, man. He said, I love you too. And he said, Oh man, what happened to our guy? And it had us reflect on that. But you know, as black men, we gotta we gotta show each other love too, because if I didn't say that, I don't think we would have got to that, fam.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know, I think that one, like we talked about purpose a lot throughout this episode, right? And this episode purpose, yeah, like for real. Um I don't think people most people don't know what their purpose is and what their destiny is on life. So if you don't move with the purpose, if you don't have purpose for what gets you going, then you're just literally uh dead. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like if you don't know, and then if you're not well if like you say, if you're not moving around and you don't believe in a higher power, you know what I'm saying, then guess what? Like that it's not gonna the purpose is not gonna trickle down. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's just facts, you know. I'm not telling you to be Bible people to be Bible dumpers and stuff like that. 100%. But in order to get in tune with yourself, you have to get in tune with the powers that possessed you and what you were possessed with. And it just doesn't become with you, you just didn't make it, you didn't your daddy just didn't spit out his dick and give you the power, like a movie and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? You cook it. And so in life, me per me over and over again, I try to redefine what my purpose is here on earth. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:And so let me shake your hand for that.
SPEAKER_01:And so, like, a part of what Big Unk said is like you gotta reinvent yourself, but a part of reinventing yourself is finding what your purpose is. Like, I was telling my boy the other day, like, I don't I'm probably not gonna be here in Vegas too much longer. Because I I did everything, right, right, right, right, right. You know, and so it is no longer special to me, just like California. Yeah, California is no longer special to me. Yeah, it's still new to me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like I could go, Biggie said it best, great place to visit, terrible place to live, and you know what I'm saying? So I would go visit for two days, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:And now it's as expensive as LA.
SPEAKER_01:So you know, so Vegas, I was in Vegas since, you know, on the tail end of it being real magical. Right. You know what I'm saying? So from I moved out here in 06, moved to Nashville and back to California, but for the most part, I was always here from 06 to now. You know what I'm saying? So I seen Vegas exactly 20 clips. Yeah, like I seen Vegas, like trains, like, you know what I mean? Like so many different ways and stuff. And so like sometimes, like I say, I tell people like this, like a girlfriend, like a relationship or whatever. Sometimes if it if it's not fulfilling you and it's not there no more, gotta let it go. You gotta let it go, and you gotta move on, you gotta pivot and move to something else. You know what I'm saying? So that's my next thing. I fly for free, so I can always be out here. I know, honey. You know what I'm saying? Um I wanna do this thing, and I'm gonna start with this episode. So you did heard it here first. Okay. You heard it here first. So you gotta, it's quick. Okay. You can't think too much. Hey, I love the lightning round. Is it yeah, it's like a game. Cool. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna spit out five things. You're gonna see you're gonna just spit out the top of the dome. You can't think about it. Let's do it. What's your love life life? Great. Okay. What's your uh the album of your life? What would it be the album that tells everything in your life? Final destination, it's on the way. Who will be the artist? If you was compare yourself to an artist's career, who will be the artist's career that you compare yourself to and why?
SPEAKER_03:Artist career that I could compare myself to and why? Hmm, that's a good question. I think I could I probably can compare myself to people wouldn't uh think that I would probably take this take, would be Jay-Z. Only because Jay Z story, for people that don't know, is more of an alchemist story. Uh Jay-Z didn't get signed until he was almost 30 years old, things like that. So that's more of my story, which is the alchemist story. Uh it but you know, I was I didn't have a hit record just because I'm DC to Beverly Hills and I was in Beverly Hills at the time and stuff like that. I didn't, I wasn't a, you know, I didn't have a hit record, none of that type of stuff. It it took a while for me to get to this level of success and stuff like that. So I guess Jay-Z, just for the alchemist story, and uh I don't think people think that he was gonna be the guy that he is now based on all the events, you know, the two popping and the big, you know, that type of stuff. So I'd say Jay.
SPEAKER_01:What would you say that you want out of life? Like this period. What do you want more out of life?
SPEAKER_03:Two words, just no worries. Uh just no worries.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. What is your version of therapy and how do you spread your message outside of podcasting? Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Um, my therapy is I'm trying, I'm trying to meditate. Uh, obviously, you know, I smoke weed, try to relax. Um, and how do I get my message out there? Ironically, I get my message out there through my content and through the things that people are seeing visually. Maybe they're seeing something, and maybe the bigger picture, you know, they might not really fully see. But it's almost like um I've had I've had some people say, man, G going crazy, man, he's just posting all this type of stuff. What a vain guy. What this is narcissistic and stuff. And then I say, that's interesting. And I'll say, Did you have you looked at the last reels that I've posted? I'm barely in them. I'm actually promoting the people that are around me. I'm actually trying to put a story together and tying a lot of things. But sometimes when you put things right in front of people, you know, like just like the phrase, if you want to hide something from a nigga, you put it in a book. But now, that was back in the day. But now, if you want to hide something from niggas, you put it in their face. Because there's so much information that's in front of your face and oversaturated with you guys are sheep. You don't know what the fuck's going on. You're just the fucking consumer anyway. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So let's shout out whoever you want to shout out. Let's also shout out, you know, G6 TV and all this stuff like that. Oh, we done? Are we done? Oh, yeah. Getting out of here. My bad. It felt like home. I was about to kick a button.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. He's about to get a uh get a blunt in uh in a train. Um shouts out to you, man. You know what I'm saying? Shouts out to uh, you know, my guy Terrence, uh, Standout, Jordan. You know, I'm saying governments just because, you know, saying I got love, real, real love for this brother. Um, you always stayed on it. You no matter what, you know, ups, downs are indifference. I don't know the stuff that goes on in your personal life, but I know you go through it because I go through it. So shouts out to you, you know, saying shouts out to Elevated Talks, the platform. You know, shouts out to Unc and Danny, man. You know, you guys, you guys built something and you know, you still pushing it on, and you know, that's still family. Um, you know, G6 TV, I want that to be one of the major, major, major uh platforms out here in Las Vegas. If anybody wants to come through, DM me, uh Capital G6, C-A-P-I-T-A-L-G6 on Instagram. And uh, like I said, please Google me. I'm a little viral, I'm gonna figure out what this viral life is like. Um, shouts out to my new artist that signed the Money Train Management, um, Tippi Morgan. You know, she's killing it. She promoted. And Tippi will be on the on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna have Tippi on um on the show on the 26th, 27th. We'll figure it out. Yeah. Um, so yeah, shouts out to Tippi. She just did the rap arena, she killed it. Um, you know, she's like I said, she's a prospect. Uh shouts out to Clip Cut. That's my brother. He's also um executive AR, Money Train Management. You know, he signed to me, but he's also, you know what I'm saying, with my business partner. He brought Tippi, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, anybody that can find a draft pick like that, and he's extremely talented. Uh, he just performed at Complex, uh, South by Southwest and a whole bunch of other things. He's always out in the Bay of Frisco. Now he's out in uh Phoenix doing some tech stuff because he's got a large tech backing and stuff as well. Um, shouts out to Tippi as well, because she's also a content creator. She does her own um reaction content and stuff like that. Very successful at that. Um, you already know, man. Shouts out to Rick Rock, shouts out to GI who was here, shouts out to all of my people, shouts out to Jules. Shouts out to Jules. Gotta gotta love it. I like jewels. Uh gotta love jewels, gotta get jewels on because she she gotta give everybody the game, you know, brands. I've seen uh um a lot of people that you've been around. I like I like jewels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. And and for me, this is you know this is what I need. So, you know, shouts out to Jules of Rome, uh, you know, Jewels of Rome, holler at that. And uh Success Jewels, she got that popping as well. But uh anything when it comes to executive, PR, brand uh strategist, just anytime you need something like that, please holler at Jules. Um she's literally, I mean, I just you know, she she's so low-key, but she's responsible for I'd say 80% of your favorite, your favorite, favorite artist, celebrity, client, or something like that. So make sure y'all hit her up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, shout out to uh everybody that he just in all the things that he just let me shout out because he said get your shout out, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's what I'm saying. So like a shout out. Yeah, shout out to that um shout out to my son, Iverson Jordan Smith, man. Shout out to Iverson Jordan Smith. I appreciate you talking about him. Let's get Iverson over here, man.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:You know, it's time for his press, man.
SPEAKER_01:I keep telling him do it in LA shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it. Or it doesn't matter. Um shout out to Concrete Cowboys. That's the Black Cowboys uh Unite. Oh, for sure, for sure. Shout out to uh just everybody that's involved from the day-to-day, you know, everybody that brings me peace from 100%. You know, uh it's hard, it's hard out here sometimes. And, you know, especially in the in the um in the business and dating world, like, you know, it gets a little tricky, you know, because you get people that you notice I don't ask him about none of that work. Yeah, nah, because it's like too tricky, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:When the ladies on the panel used to ask.
SPEAKER_01:So what you do? I'm like, yeah. Yeah, but you know, like, you know, I look, I got a shorty, whatever, you know, so we rocking. Um, and then um shout out to um shout out to this album that's fucking supposed to have been out. Yes. That's coming out because after that we're doing it's going from the RB album, which which is called What A Time Next Should Be Out in all platforms within the next month. No, for sure. Um, and then we're going to rap album, and we're going a country album, top of the year. So we're gonna have all that.
SPEAKER_03:Since you talked about the genres, rhythm and vibes, the genre and the single. I got my guy Stacey Roswell, no free show. Shout out to both of them, Money Train Management Artists, they killing it, doing their thing. Um I got a rhythm and vibes, you have to get on it and the artists that you got needed. Guess what? Because I got a new genre.
SPEAKER_01:I got scene that and you sent it to me, but guess what? Talk to me. I got shout out to Inglewood Pizzle. He does um in LA, he does it's called uh Rhythm and Vive, something like that. I sorry if I'm if I butchered it. Right, right.
SPEAKER_03:But um and we could we need to get locked in.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. They do it once a month, they do it once a month that they want to do out here, but they do like backyard. Okay. It's like it's at a studio, but it's in the in the back of the studio, they roll out the carpet, live bands, and everybody drinking. For sure. We we got it. Hey, shout out to Ingle with Pizzo.
SPEAKER_03:Shouts out to Saul, yeah. I want to make sure, you know, shouts out to No Free Show. He's got a new project. Well, said is done. Uh that project is out. Um, you know, Stacy Roswell, he's got singles out. Um, like I said, Rick Rocky's got everything moving. Shouts out to Definition of Artistry. Want to get him on here whenever that's possible as well. GI's been killing it, doing a whole bunch of shit.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to GI. Um, go stream his music too. You know, like this. Oh, I know. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:I never talk about my music.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm gonna talk shit. Oh, okay. This is the only dodo brain that has music.
SPEAKER_03:Dope music.
SPEAKER_01:He likes his my music. Don't put shit out. You're like a no, no, Jules.
SPEAKER_03:I'm putting the music. The music is getting put out. No, but you never didn't interview.
SPEAKER_00:You never fucking put out an album. You just put out fucking music.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, he's fucking dodo brain. Final destination. Jules, it's dropping, right? You can just yell and say yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, she says yes, it's dropping. Fuck that. Put out an album.
SPEAKER_00:All these people. We've been saying it for day one. Dude, this dude pissed me off. Jules makes me put stuff out. That's her thing. This dude pissed me off in 2021.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna tell a real quick story. We're getting the fuck out of here. Go ahead. He pissed me off. I said, G, I'm getting you on this album. Ooh, this motherfucker gets so busy. He ties up so much shit, and then he fucked it up. I did. He fucked up the opportunity. And I'm like, dude, I got you on the fucking album.
SPEAKER_00:I said, you know what, G, just sit this one out.
SPEAKER_03:I know, right.
SPEAKER_00:Then the nigga had to sit me on the bench. And I was like, damn, I never he brought me in the game and it's it, but I f I fucked it up. He's part of the reason why we started the fucking album. The album is out if you guys want to listen to the video. I remember that group text.
SPEAKER_03:I know it was all bad. Look, I could hear the uh it's so hard to say goodbye, boys to men, the music in the background when I saw the thread of the book.
SPEAKER_01:11 seasons by Elevator One. I was like, let me just delete this thread. Yeah, like these things like that. Sit this one out. I had studios and stuff. Like, I mean, I I I came up with two songs, like we cultivated the beats and shit like that. And I'm like, No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:He's not lying. He's he's not lying. Okay, I I fucked that up. I'm not perfect. And this is the crazy part, and this is a learning lesson to all artists. Talented, good looking, strapping, got all the things. I don't let me look into my camera. I have no projects ever have been dropped with G6 that's any like a full project with like eight, 10, 20 songs. Nothing, just singles. So this is what you are, this is what you'll look like if you do this for 10 years and you never drop anything. Now I'm still successful. You guys are not the anomaly like me and still get to pivot your any way you want. But okay, so this is what we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck that. This is what we're gonna do. We're gonna do a we're gonna do a project. We're gonna have Oh, me and you?
SPEAKER_03:How about we both drop both of our projects? So I make him drop his and he make me.
SPEAKER_01:He's not gonna drop a fucking project, he's gonna drop singles. So that's like he's gonna be like, I gotta drop. It's like fucking, it's like reading the fucking cards.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Final Destination isn't is an album that I never released, and I still haven't.
SPEAKER_01:So when are you gonna drop it?
SPEAKER_03:But when is it gonna drop as album?
SPEAKER_01:I don't want, I don't want I heard some of the singles.
SPEAKER_03:You're dropping the whole thing before the end of the month. You heard it first from Jewels of Rome, all of the hate mail. If you got a problem with that, send it to my DM.
SPEAKER_01:If you don't come out, you're gonna get a call from me. All right. I know where to find it. Same with you. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. Very few people know where the honeycomb hideout is. Yeah, I I know where all, you know what I'm saying? I will fucking come kick down the door. And plus, you're gonna have to buy when are you dropping yours? You're gonna it's gonna be before the the day before Halloween. What's Halloween?
SPEAKER_02:Uh the thirty 30th or 31st? 31st? 31st.
SPEAKER_01:That's it's Friday or Saturday. Ooh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on. Halloween is on a Friday.
SPEAKER_01:It's gonna drop Halloween. Another first. Yeah, it's gonna drop Halloween. Last last time we dropped the album on Black Friday.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, you dropping Halloween. I'm dropping in November. I don't think I'm that I don't think I'm that smooth player. Can I get November? Can you get November before December? This year? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Shake on it. All right. And if it doesn't, it's her fault.
SPEAKER_01:If the shit doesn't drop, you owe, you owe 100 push-ups on live on camera. No, no, no, no. You're buying champagne for Tippy when she comes on the show. We're gonna get her twice. We're gonna get we're gonna get GI back on here, and we're gonna get Rico back on here. So yeah, you gotta buy them champagne. Them or Tippy? Hold on. All of them now. No, I didn't know.
SPEAKER_00:And now I'm pushing that, and I'm forcing your hand.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, so champagne. And if your shit don't drop, then then you gotta pay for the bottles. Absolutely. All right, bet. All ace. Bet? Okay. Y'all, he said ace. I'm bel air. I'm broke. He got it.
SPEAKER_01:All right. But you know, uh, they'll get one ace bottle of rest Bellar.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And knowing him, he knows how to get the ace for the love.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it comes.
SPEAKER_01:But on that note, uh shout out to everybody. Shout out to Sheriff, shout out to Rognatius Sapp. Because they do my boy, I think they had a hand in doing my boy Tour Lang. But whatever. That's just another day for another topic. Um crazy. Yeah. This was a fun episode, man. Shout out to everybody. Uh shout out to We gotta shout out the studio, man. This is a fun episode.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I'm sorry. Shout out to Sip, my sponsor. They sponsored the glasses. Shout out to Sip. Glasses, uh, it's an Elixir. Um, it's another, they're like an umbrella of Hardine. And this is another way for me to, everybody likes to say, I don't know what you look like when you're glad. This is what I look like, people. But shout out to Sip.
SPEAKER_01:Shouts out to Sip. Shout out to Out of Box Media. Like they're doing the damn thing, you know, saying, hey, if you want to book, they got multiple sets in this job. 100%. They got multiple sets.
SPEAKER_03:I'm coming, I'm coming over here to produce. I'm about to do a couple impromptu uh Nevada dice uh six something.
SPEAKER_01:If you don't see me on out of box, it's either out of box or um or the pod place. You know what I'm saying? Depending on the timing, if he's booked, then I'd be out of the pod place. If the pod place is booked, it's out of box. But they both like it's gonna be very pivotal to what I'm trying to do because it's out of auto box?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this is out of box. Okay. Shouts out to Auto Box, my guy who's engineering and doing everything solid. This right here is where y'all gotta come through because I've been seeing a lot of people redoing the same look. If y'all want to get some good content, he is one of the pioneers of switching up the location of it to give you the aesthetic. So if you want something aesthetically pleasing, come over here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they got multiple sets. I'm trying to tell you guys look, look, I'm if I'm lying, I'm dying. I ain't there yet. Nah. They have multiple sets. They're in the they're in a literally the middle of the town, so it's easy to get to. Uh, their prices is probably better than 90% of the podcast studios out here in Vegas shit. Yeah, they're comparable to LA price. LA prices is the love.
SPEAKER_03:Quality, man. If y'all could quality, the quality is the quality man for sure and i'm i wouldn't put a stamp on approval you know me i if i shoot somewhere and i don't ain't feeling it no i won't i won't shout it out as long as i known this guy he didn't he done filmed in like different like 20 to 30 different podcast locations not podcast interviews yes different locations i could call them all yeah someone's not here no more and shouts out to them shouts out to all of the podcasts that didn't make it you know what i'm saying you know shouts out to you because my thing is is if you're if this ain't for you then get out the way man another one bites the dust step that up another one you know when Joe button always be he anytime he always do that shit look we seen them all it was only look this is a fun fact I said I'm gonna get the fuck out of here but this is a fun fact we've seen hundreds of podcasts come through this this city alone right in the last five to six years seven years it's only three that still stand and we can all name them all I that's that's still standing is y'all elevated talks that's all I know no we got one more you've been on the show I ain't gonna got one more you been on the show that's still here yes Vegas Circle oh of course yeah yeah yeah of course of course Vegas Circle yeah yeah yeah yeah of course of course of course yeah yeah and no because you gotta remember I did my Vegas Circle all uh I did my Vegas Circle interview in 2022 that's the only reason why since you said Yeah but they're still here for sure for sure they they were here yeah yeah and and it might be one or two other ones that's riding away so that's all you got we ain't even got another name right yeah but you know when it comes to analytics I know what the analytics look like so in the last five years the only ones that have survived the last five years that I know personally and then I could see and I pay attention to this because this is my business is Elevated Talks and Vegas Circle podcast.
SPEAKER_01:Yes and I took a break from July to now and we still get downloads and views. 100% that's facts I sent them the shit.
SPEAKER_02:So for everybody that says I post a lot go look at my stuff I didn't post on my page for two years. Is that facts or not? I want to paste it on my story. It is facts he went in my though like I said everybody tried to post many times and then when I come back okay I kind of go crazy because God is the greatest and you were doing big things but uh yeah man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And on that note we out. Peace
