Elevated Talkz
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Elevated Talkz
Too Soon, Too Late, Just Right
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The podcast episode delves into the intricate dynamics of modern relationships, exploring themes of emotional availability, the importance of friendship as a solid foundation, and the misconceptions surrounding intimacy. Guests share personal experiences highlighting the challenges of building genuine connections in today’s fast-paced dating landscape, while emphasizing the importance of self-awareness in nurturing healthy relationships.
• Discussion on mental health awareness and its significance in relationships
• Reflections on podcast longevity and commitment
• Insights into varied personal careers within the entertainment industry
• Examination of trust, insecurities, and societal expectations in dating
• Importance of emotional availability and honest communication in intimacy
• The case for friendship as the ideal foundation for romantic relationships
• Closing thoughts on self-discovery and ongoing personal growth
elevate talks and say you got your boy stand out in the fucking building and we got a returning fucking guest. Oh, really, so real, because you can enter, you can intro yourself at this point.
Speaker 3That's crazy. You called me a guest.
Speaker 1Well, not a guest but you get what I'm saying. Nah, man, it's been a while man.
Speaker 3G6 is back. Elevated Talks man, my guy Terrence. Yeah, man, it's great to be back. Last time we was rocking out was 2021, man. That's a long time it's. That was 2021, man, it's a long time, it's 2025 man, but you don't even feel like it, man, we still, you know, we still here, still doing what we do. So absolutely.
Speaker 1It's great man, absolutely. And then we got two beautiful ladies here. Um, there's gonna be some more, but we got two beautiful ladies here. Go ahead and introduce yourself to the cameras hello, I'm kim.
Speaker 4Can you come?
Speaker 1choice um, I'll tag your socials and everything on the video and shit. How you guys doing, how you feeling.
Speaker 2Good, feeling good. How's your mental health?
Speaker 4My mental health is great.
Speaker 1You guys believe in mental health and shit.
Speaker 4Yep, absolutely 100%.
Speaker 1Okay, Because some people are like what?
Speaker 4the fuck what the hell they're lacking.
Speaker 3She said they're lacking.
Speaker 4That's facts.
Speaker 3That's facts, that is true.
Speaker 2Where are?
Speaker 1you guys from California? What part of California?
Speaker 2I grew up in Southern California, in a smaller town in between Palm Springs and Riverside.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 4I'm West LA baby.
Speaker 1West LA. What high school you go to? I?
Speaker 4went to Laces.
Speaker 1Unicorns.
Speaker 4Go Unicorns.
Speaker 1You know about Laces, I was a Carson High guy myself. I'm a Beverly High guy.
Speaker 4Right down the block.
Speaker 2Yeah uh. So when I was there, I was at uh pacific in san randino when I went back there and then I moved here and I ended up graduating from here, but we still stayed in cal, back and forth between california okay, what high school did you go to out here?
Speaker 1durango durango okay okay, all right. Yeah, um, I live not too far from durango so yeah, I pass by all the time I've seen you've been on the fucking you know your little tour and shit. I wouldn't say little, but you know, you know it's working man, just just putting the work.
Speaker 3You know god is the greatest. You know, I just make sure that he's guiding me, he's the guiding light. But aside from that, you know, just putting the work, man, you know it's great to see you doing your thing as well. You know, I distinctively remember you saying, uh, we'll be four years from now and then we'll look and see the work that we put in, like we could really like it would be smooth, we could insert that like and.
Speaker 1I'm gonna find that fucking clip. Um, I know where it is, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, Shout out to Angela too, by the way. You know she's doing her wellness shit, but I was telling I was telling him.
Speaker 1It's kind of funny because like you see so many fucking podcasts, right, like you see a shit ton and they last about a year, maybe two, but then after that, like they just fickle out less through like real popular like you, like they just fickle out unless they're like real popular. Like you know, like earn your leisure, joe budden and shit like that. Who's your daddy? I don't really listen to that, no more. But you know cocktails shit like that, you know I mean. So it's cam and mace's pocket.
Speaker 3Well, there's more like a show definitely shots out to cam and mace, yeah, shots out to nick dice. The producer too. Man, he I told, I told everybody he need to win producer of the year. He killing it right now, but that's my god over there.
Speaker 1Yeah, those are the ones that I know at the top of my head that like, yeah, everybody else is like whatever.
Speaker 3Why you think that is, though, like why you think? Because the funny thing about it is we talked about it. It's almost like really having that vision. So we talked about it then and now we actually in it, so four years gone by.
Speaker 1So why you think that is it's the same as music, you know, um, you know, a lot of times people do things because it's a fucking fat and shit, or you know, they, they think that they could get rich quick off it, true, and then, like they realize that you got to put a lot of work in before you start. You know, remember, when I had the uh, the bel air rose fucking sponsorship, like I did like, yeah, hey, yo man, hey, that was the first episode?
Speaker 3yo, that was. Hey, that was the first episode. Yo, that was crazy. That was my first. No, that was my second one, because we did the first one and then the second one was the Champagne Talks, remember? Yeah, the first one was me, you and Danny B, when I had the top 40 under 40.
Speaker 1Mm-mm, he was the first one on the champagne table, you're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, so you know consistency and stuff like that. I'm pretty sure you ladies could attest to that. If you don't mind, what are your hobbies? Or what do you do? What?
Speaker 2do you do for? So I have a salon space that I do hair and everything out of, but I don't do that too much anymore. Used to do it all the time. I run an OnlyFans management company and then I actually am getting ready to start a podcast. So it'll be more of a show than a podcast, but working on that, that's been in the works for a little bit, making sure that we do it the right way so that I don't end up being a statistic.
Speaker 1Absolutely. I'll do statistically. I'm going to put the music in the background, but every time somebody fucking comes out with some shit and then they don't succeed, and I'm on their ass. I'm like, come on, like look, I'm all about like uplifting and like pushing people to their shit and then they don't fucking stay with it. I'm on your ass.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know I'm saying so yeah, why do y'all think like the same question, like why do y'all think that some, like people, start podcasts and then they just fizzle out?
Speaker 2I think people, you want something to happen for you really quickly and it doesn't. I just don't feel like anything works like that, like even just with any business. I, you know, I do modeling as well, and so for me, even with that, I feel like there's a lot of people who will start. They're like oh, I can do this, I can do that, or they're getting all these you know, free shoots and they start realizing do all the little things for you to get to where you want to be and I feel like that's kind of where a lot of people struggle with podcasts too.
Speaker 2You think people are going to automatically like what you're putting out and people may like it, but it also has to be seen and there's so many other things that are great. Right now, people are not going to necessarily just come and check into what you're doing, so definitely. You have to figure out what you're, you know how you bring those people in. Once you do that.
Speaker 4I feel like you can do it, but I think we just think it's gonna happen quickly and it's just not I think those natural organic relationships that flow on, like everybody can register with that and I think those are the ones that pop off. And I think once they start being forced, that's when it kind of starts to fizzle, because everyone sees it's kind of like desperado, like what is this? What?
Speaker 2is this? Why are we doing this? Why?
Speaker 4are you doing this? You're doing too much. Right, you're doing too much.
Speaker 4That's why we start watching them and seeing that, yeah, and so, yeah, I mean the ones that I tune into I like the natural vibe. Like you were talking about Cam and Em. I was on Cam's talk with Flea, I did one you know I don't want to be no fucking creeping shit. Yeah, he did hear me. Yeah, I just, um, I did his, uh, his game show, which is like a new concept, on his talk with fleet network and so, yeah, I'm just kind of seeing where it goes with me with there.
Speaker 1Like I said, I like funny that you said that because, like um you said, I remember vividly now um they were. They was like. You know what is like?
Speaker 2women always ask you for like money or whatever, and you said everybody's like $40 okay hold on real quick.
Speaker 3She hates the $40. I hate it because they had my face and it was $40. Like it's my like a price or something. I'm like yo. She didn't want to post it. That's why I can't get down.
Speaker 4She didn't gonna post this shit I remember that that that yeah, but it was a, it was a a background thing before that, because we were kind of just, you know, shooting this shit before the show and they were like, well, how much do girls charge? And we just, well, we all said $40 and so that we kind of that was like the precursor to that. So when it popped up on the show I was like $40. And that's why it was automatic. But people thought I saw the comments. They was like Shorty is lowballing herself.
Speaker 3I'm like no, no, no, no, not me at all, there's no price. The way that the thumbnail was, because it was two thumbnails, it was the first one that was just presenting it, so I was like, ok, this is dope. She posted that one Like the 4-0 right on the titties. She wasn't fucking with it.
Speaker 1Somebody clipped that. Actually, I've seen it on YouTube. As a matter of fact, you know, somebody clipped it. I think it was like MTR or somebody, I can't remember, but they clipped that shit up.
Speaker 4Oh my God, I can imagine I told her she was viral.
Speaker 3I be telling her she was viral man. You know Kim is a staple out here. She, you know she, just you know she moving and shaking and stuff like that, but very humble, but it's like come on, man Don't come on. You gotta, you, gotta post it, cause you know and you know me when it comes to posting, yeah, you gotta post that shit.
Speaker 4He hates that I don't post shit, no, no, no, it's not about, like I said, I registered with this person, but organic.
Speaker 1Shout out to Cam, for sure, you know what you remind me of One of those women that used to be an actress, and now she just don't act anymore.
Speaker 4That's my lady right there.
Speaker 1That's my number one she's one of my top list actresses like bitch, what the Cheesecake Factory but I love the Cheesecake Factory see, so let me ask you you guys in relationships okay, okay, see, we gonna get back to that how does um, I mean just the shit that you do, everything that you do, how does your guy or girl okay?
Speaker 3yeah, I gotta make sure. I ask that some people would be like oh see, okay, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1You're okay with my bad? Uh, my bad sis, um, but how does like? How's the dynamic of your relationship when it comes down to like this? Does your man feel comfortable? Like like? You're both for an entertainment space and conscious space?
Speaker 2my man's not insecure okay, but you know, that's the easiest way to put it. He's not insecure. We don't have any of those issues. I can do and be myself. I can go live how I want to live, like it's not an issue what would you describe insecure though for me, I feel like there's a lot of men. If you feel like you have to be worried constantly about what your girl's doing, whatever it is for one, don't date someone who's attractive. Yeah, first and foremost is like the biggest thing.
Speaker 2There's so many men that, in my opinion, are insecure because of your behavior towards what your girl's doing, or oh, you know she's here, she's there. Well, why are you doing this? Why are you? You know, why do you have to go do that? Well, are you with a bunch of guys? Are you with this, are you with that? No matter what, I'm going to be around men and women okay, and both men and women find me attractive.
Speaker 2So no matter what it's all about, what our dynamic is, how we are. So if you feel that you have to argue about with someone about where they're going constantly, why they're doing this in some way, shape or form, you're insecure about something, whether that's within yourself or whether that's your partner. If you don't trust your partner, I also feel like that's an insecurity for you, a big part so if you don't, trust her.
Speaker 2there's an insecurity between your relationship. So you have to find that balance of how do you fix that. And again, it could be an insecure thing where it may not be that he's insecure about himself, but he's insecure about your relationship, exactly so I don't have that issue with my partner.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2We don't have that insecurity thing. We trust each other fully. He can go be around whoever he wants, and I'm not gonna think twice about it. I can be around whoever I want, he's not gonna think twice about it. But it's also again that thing where we built, we built that trust there so there's no reason for him to be insecure and you're in the situation ship how'd you kid, you did that oh my
Speaker 3goodness got it. Yeah, you're an expert, you read?
Navigating Relationship Dynamics and Experiences
Speaker 4it completely right. I mean, I'm usually a long time Got it. Yeah, you're an expert, you read it completely right. I mean I'm usually a long relationship girl. So before that, like a year and a half ago, I was in an eight-year relationship. Before that, I was in a 10-year relationship. So this is new for me and I think it's a situationship because of this whole dating pool that we have here. It's really crappy.
Speaker 3It's a situation ship because of the dating pool.
Speaker 4No, seriously.
Speaker 3You're the one that dictates. It's a situation ship. The dating pool will dictate that it's a situation ship.
Speaker 4Well, both Because the dating pool dictated it being a situation ship Like he's been out here, apparently, and he's been out here dating.
Speaker 2So now that you're dating me, now that you're dating me, I'm like, oh you're, you're tainted. Oh great, but we're all grown. There's a what the fuck? What is tainted? Yeah, that's it, even for me like I don't.
Speaker 2I hear you. I hear what you're saying. I understand like you're feeling, like the dating pool is this. The dating pool is. You know what most of us will say is trash. But at the end of the day, I feel like you're you're tainting him by you having those feelings towards him. You taint him with that because at the end of the day, you could be with someone who that's like. That's like someone saying okay, all the girls who I work with, who I manage for only fans, they've slept with all these people.
Speaker 2They're doing this on cameras, whatever the situation is right so if a man were to come and say, you're tainted goods, I can't be with you. That's not the world tainting her, that's the man tainting her. So you have to look at it the same way. If he's out here, I take it out here, disrespecting you. Yeah, no, it's a different story to see.
Speaker 4If I've had only two long relationships and he's had many little, whatever you want to call them. He's tainted to me because of his experiences. My experiences have been nothing but soul like longevity. We're really gonna get married. We're gonna do this. We're gonna plan out his experiences. Let's go with the flow oh, so then it's not.
Speaker 2It's not the dating pool that tainted him, it's him, who tainted him?
Speaker 5and yeah you picked.
Speaker 2You pick someone who's tainted. So now you're in a situation with someone who's tainted.
Speaker 4Because of my experience, which is valid absolutely.
Speaker 2I agree with I. I feel like it's valid, but you still, you know at that point, this is just like the biggest woman he's ever well yeah, well, we can agree to disagree but I can actually I agree with that, because he definitely that's what he's saying himself. But it's like you know, we don't agree with you.
Speaker 3Guys are saying so you guys, don't think you guys, because it's impossible to be tainted, okay, so you okay this is what I said.
Speaker 2I don't no, no, you're good this is where.
Speaker 3This is where you fucked up because you said you fucked up when you said experiences like that's what makes a man a man. You want to fuck a man and suck a man because of his experiences in life the shit that makes you want to love a man, because he has experience, so it has not like his experiences, which are attracted to you. Having a lot of experiences is not the vibe. Him having a lot of experiences is what makes him the vibe. That's why you want to fuck with him.
Speaker 4No, I think, beyond the experience is what makes me want to fuck up, like with him, like, initially it's attraction.
Speaker 3Okay, cool, I think you look good right now it's like what are we doing? Where are we going? What's the first thing you're gonna ask I hang with you all the time, ken what you want to do. You want to go eat, right, and you want this nigga to go take you and all that type of shit Right. So he has to have the fucking experience to go to these goddamn restaurants.
Speaker 4So basically, he gotta know where to take you. He gotta have experience it could be his first time with me. It's fine. We can go to the sushi place for the first time.
Gender Roles in Modern Relationships
Speaker 3We can go try his breakfast, you know. Pull out money it's nothing like no one cares about a woman with money, not fuck the job like if you have britain no okay, with some money by all means you know, if it's, if it's the, uh, what an indecent proposal. Demi. More shit and we got a whole bunch of money. We fucking that's cracking okay, but besides that, like you guys actually having money, like we don't give a fuck, you know that you go.
Speaker 3You guys know that yeah, you don't walk around you guys are very successful and you don't walk around showing money right because my money is not there.
Speaker 2I don't, my money does not exist in this world well, there you go she has.
Speaker 3She has meta money I like that.
Speaker 4Yeah, I mean I don't count, personally don't count mine, yeah, as I.
Speaker 2If I, as a woman, going to a man, don't count mine it has nothing to do with the fact that I won't use my money for this or that. But at the end of the day, it's not I, it's not for you, there's a woman's place in the man's place.
Speaker 1When it comes that, yeah, that's not my so what do you think the the structure is in a relationship?
Speaker 2for me. I I can't say it's for everyone, because I I definitely wholeheartedly feel like there's women who are out there who they are meant to go 50, 50 with a man.
Speaker 3They are meant to do that that is them that is most of, but that's most of. That's most of the population, most of the population the world are supposed to do. That it's okay, right, it's not even they're supposed to.
Speaker 2It's the fact that they choose to, or they're.
Speaker 3They're not willing to economics like economically. That's what they have the world is built on like society got built on that.
Speaker 2They have no choice. I don't have that problem. So for me, I definitely am very much again like a woman's place, man's place. I'm very traditional. I am completely fine with a man telling me you need to be in the house, make sure you're cooking, cleaning, fucking, sucking, doing whatever, and I will not think twice, I won't argue it, I'll be like, okay, but at the same time and also that man also has to be able to provide me with a safe and healthy place that I can do that- yeah and if I'm not in a place or a home or whatever where I'm comfortable enough to be able to do all those things, don't ask me to do it.
Speaker 2You have no right to ask me to do that but no real man is going to ever ask that.
Speaker 3They just do it. But I get you, but I've never had that. I've never had that.
Speaker 2I've never had For me, I've always had men who are going to make sure it's all taken care of Exactly. There's no asking.
Speaker 1I think you guys are experienced enough to know what you want. I don't think you'll want to waste time with somebody with the potential of you know X, y and Z of what you were just saying. So I mean, like you know what I'm saying and you know same thing, you were long-term relationships whatever and um you know you kind of know what you want, you know, and, uh, I, I kind of agree with you guys.
Speaker 1Um, I mean, I'm not, I'm not a 50 50 guy, like you know. I'm saying like, I have my own way of doing shit, like I, I I live by I say it all the time I live by the three f's fucking feminine and feeding me, right. So I don't expect for my woman to like be at my beck and call as far as like kicking on on the drop of a dime or whatever. But I'm not, and I'm not just talking about feeding me food like, I'm talking about feeding me like, intellectually, all that shit, like that, right. Like don't be no dumb ass, you know.
Speaker 1I mean like, like he's like if I can't, we can't laugh or we can't have a conversation or if like all right, so I'm opposite of everybody, like I'm like most women 90 of the women that I've ever dated. They're like more like liberal, I'm more conservative. You know what I'm saying. But like, when I say feed me, I'm like, okay, well, feed. Like let's bounce shit off off of each other. I'm not gonna judge you, don't judge me just because I'm moving this light, don't? You know? I'm saying like I have an open mind when you come, you know fucking with me. You know I mean so, um, some guys argue you know 50, 50, go digger bullshit like that, whatever. And then you got your. You guys, that was in the. You know 50, 50, go dig your bullshit, like that, whatever. And then you got your. You guys, that was in the. You know the manosphere, you I don't know if you know what the manosphere is, probably don't, but give us a short word.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah but you know I call a lot of those guys it was infiltrated. You know you're fresh and fits and shit like that. You know he man, woman haters. You know, uh, they'll, they'll tell you that. You know, in order to get this, she needs to give you that Like no, it's simple, you know.
Speaker 3Well, it's just different, because with those type of situations it's just like they not understanding that they not supposed to be taking that type of responsibility, Like like, when shit goes wrong it's the man's fault, they're blaming the women.
Speaker 2no real man respects that no bottom line, nothing's ever this shit is fucked up because of men fucking this shit up.
Speaker 3It's that simple. Because we can't be the ones that made the world and made everything great and did everything good and you know we're the first class citizens, you guys are second class citizens and all that type of shit for the traditional woman women or whatever, and then we try to front like when shit goes awry it's y'all fault.
Speaker 3That ain't even. No, that's not to me, that's not even being offensive, that's not even like an offensive mindset, that's like we run the show. If we, if shit fuck up, it's our fault. Period, because that's all we know right.
Speaker 4Well, that's the men's, that's the men's position. But I think where we get lost in it is like whatever happened to being being friends first.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4You know what I mean Like considering people in their situation. That's completely lost you know, I mean because it's like okay, of course, I'm glad you said that?
Speaker 4Yeah, of course I would want you to be the provider, but hey, you might be off your game. You might be in between jobs right now. So now what? You, a broke ass nigga, just you're going through and you can't take care of me. No, I'm gonna look at your situation and say, no, he got potential, and that's another thing potential, but see that that's cool, but that's a slippery slope.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's a slippery slope, that's icy, just because, like, are we talking about a regular person, are we talking about you guys?
Speaker 2so it's like every time we have.
Speaker 3You know, we always have these podcasts and every time I'm saying something, he'll be like yeah, but gee, we're not talking about us, about us. So it's like it's kind of it gets dicey, you know, because we don't move like that, you guys don't move like that, but for the average person, they do, they do.
Speaker 1Yeah, I try not to throw you know 100% of myself into the situation because, like I'm just moving on my own drama, I really don't give a fuck about too much. You know thing I could say is that I don't have a lot of time. So, um, even with this shit, like like I had a whole bunch of other shit, like just just the first, let's give a hand clap.
Speaker 4This is the first fucking episode, like I said oh okay and I was like, look man, they've been missing the panels.
Speaker 3We got to get it back going. So you know, it's good to just, you know, motivate my man.
Speaker 4Just like man, let's get back on good though, because your conversations like this need to be had, like, even with the whole mental. It's so interesting that, like, mental awareness has just become a forefront as of recent Right. You know, like the whole word narcissist that's been scratched as of recent. For sure, but like maybe 10, 20, 20 years ago, no one even knew the word, no one knew to match this guy is that?
Speaker 3People weren't saying that shit.
Speaker 2Yeah, but now everyone's a narcissist. Is what everyone?
Speaker 3knows Absolutely.
Speaker 2Because now it's all widespread, it's become something that's Well you got the buzzword mafia and shit. Right.
Speaker 1I get called a narcissist sometimes.
Speaker 4Of course, I've been called a narcissist before.
Speaker 2And I won't even say that I there's not. I feel like we all in some way have certain tendencies, but there's a difference between someone being a narcissist and having those tendencies I agree, because I don't.
Speaker 1I'm not a fucking narcissist, but like I'm not gonna lie this would say that I could admit and take accountability like I'm arrogant and confident and shit, I'm not gonna lie, I commit and take accountability, like I'm arrogant and confident as shit. I'm not, you know, a straggler lying and cocky. I'm not cocky, but I'm very confident as shit. So like I feel like when I walk in the room, like you know, like like I have no problem, you know what I'm saying, I just maneuver through it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Like I don't have to, I, I just walk in, you know just maneuver like, hey, what's up, what's cracking? You know what I'm saying and I know that because of the work I put in and the relationships that I have, you know what I'm saying. And so if I need a favor, whatever, whatever, if I need somebody to pull up, or if I need to say he needed a fucking deal with somebody or whatever, then I'm going to make a phone call. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3You know we're gonna get the shit. Oh yeah, yeah, he just he bigoted just the podcast. It's just he'd be so busy and stuff. You know, and doing the football stuff with your son, that's the same thing with me. So we kind of did the same situation because you know I was with my son open and stuff like that. So you know I didn't step away from it, but a lot of platforms they left. I don't know what happened to them. We can have that conversation or the other conversation, but it's a lot of things that be going on and we need platforms. That's why you said you got a podcast or something. Did you have a name for it or?
Speaker 2uh, yeah, so it's actually gonna just be char. Uh, charlize, we'll figure it out and we're just gonna talk about a whole lot of everything.
Speaker 1Okay, well, I'm gonna figure it out, and if I, don't, we don't, I did so is it gonna be like one of those more like um, like some shit, like kind of like melissa ford shit, or is it uh?
Speaker 2so I actually for me, don't start you.
Speaker 3Wow for that, go now.
Speaker 1I'm just asking I just let me throw this out there I do not actually watch that you saw that okay cool no, so I like more of like the vibes of um.
Speaker 2It's kind of like a mix between like please plug, talk, and then we're gonna have like the tire show, like kind of like the vibes of um. It's kind of like a mix between like Cresha, please plug, talk, and then we're going to have like the tire show, like kind of those vibes, kind of all mixing together.
Speaker 2I'm going to talk about a lot of different stuff. Um, there'll be a lot of stuff, especially like about because of you know me working with only fans, models and everything. I feel like there's a lot of stigmas with females, female orgasms, you know know, being a woman different things like that as well as I do, even though I work in an industry. I have my own business. I work in industry where I'm working with so many women who don't necessarily like the traditional lifestyle. Um, I want to be able to still talk about that and, like you know I, that needs to be shared, like, hey, it's okay to to want either option I don't, but it's okay for other people too and then also making sure we talk about sex and a whole lot of that, because a whole lot of that in this.
Speaker 2There's just so much that I feel like people just don't know about sex. There's so many different things that are just not talked about so, um, what are you?
Speaker 1what are some of the biggest misconceptions about sex that that you guys would talk about or that you should let people know about?
Navigating Modern Dating Challenges
Speaker 2so one so for me, one of the biggest things I've realized there's a lot of women the more and more that I've talked to different women about stuff who have never once had an actual orgasm or who are terrified to communicate with their partner. So I want to make sure that we teach women how can you communicate with your partner. Let them know what you like, let them know this. There's so many women who are stuck in these marriages and they're like, oh, this isn't good. That's not good whatever the situation is, and it's really just the fact you know you're unhappy because of sex and everyone pretends like sex isn't a big deal, but in any relationship that's a staple, no matter what, that's a huge part time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out.
Speaker 1Who pretends?
Speaker 2like sex ain't a big deal, a lot of people, a lot of people, pretend like sex isn't a big deal. A lot of people, a lot of people, pretend like sex isn't a big deal. A lot of people will pretend like business thrives because of because of sex, but there's a lot of people who act like it's not that serious or they're like oh and especially women.
Speaker 3It's more so the women.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, okay, not even that, or men who it's not that they don't act like it's a big deal, but it's not a big deal for their woman to be pleased it's only a big deal for them to get what they want out of it.
Speaker 1Okay, all right. Well, um, that's, that's very interesting. Um, because, fucking, yeah, I think sex is a big deal. Like sex is a big deal.
Speaker 2I agree that's what I'm saying we have. That conversation has to be had that people don't want to use toys in relationships Shit, maybe that's for a lot of women. They only clitorally get off. So what's next? Have some fun.
Speaker 3I ran across those yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, the traditionals, that's only. That's a little vanilla Missionary.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah vanilla vanilla missionary.
Speaker 3Yeah, no back shots. Yeah, a lot of them toys be doing. Y'all be playing with toys too much. See, that should be.
Speaker 2I don't I I, that's not, that's. That's not necessarily true. I feel like it's one of those things a lot of women now they add so much and they they pretend like it's this or oh, you need that, you need this. No, it's. It's. What are you? What are you doing? How are you doing it? And a lot of times it's an emotional thing. For a lot of women you do have to emotionally be connected to someone for you to even have an orgasm. So sometimes people are like, oh no, it's because you play with toys you do this. No, they're just not actually interested in you.
Speaker 2Hold on a second.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're going and take a break, we'll be right back.
Speaker 3We'll be back, I'll be on time. That's one time.
Speaker 1Alright, let's get back to this. I'm sorry I fucked up. I'm going to admit it. I'm going to take accountability. This time I could admit when I'm wrong. I told my girl that it's okay, I told her the wrong time. I'm taking accountability and saying I fucked up, told you. That's what real me Go ahead and introduce yourself to the viewers out there. Let them know your name or, if you want to know them, to know your handles.
Speaker 6Sure, my name is Marilyn. I'm Cuban. I moved here in 2009. I have two kids. I work with anything that has to be with a county. Trying to work hard, I made it here. Nice Learning, thank you Welcome.
Speaker 1That was my fuck up. I talked to like a million different people. You've seen everybody in the inbox, right, my co-host.
Speaker 2he was supposed to come we had to move the time for him he wound up having his daughter.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah, so, um, so we went wind up, moving the time for him and um, and then I had to book the studio or or whatever the case may be. So she confirmed, she did confirm, I said yes, but I'm thinking like um, there's a brain fart. And I I sent this whole thing out to him saying, hey, make sure they're here 15 minutes before so we can prep them. Blah, yada, yada, yada. Um, let's be honest, no offense, but nine times out of ten you had three things with women they come hella late because you guys be on your own time.
Speaker 1We'll talk about that um, I'm just gonna admire your accountability and the second thing is like they flick at the last minute. And the third thing is like I get the, like the no call, no show, and they hit you up after you hear oh, I wish I was on there, I'm so sorry. Next time you gotta get me on, that's definitely especially in Vegas, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1So I like to get it 15 minutes so we can know where the mic, the engineering set up the mics and all that good stuff. So again, that's on me. You were still late. Yes, you're right, you're right, you right, you're absolutely right. I can admit that I take accountability.
Speaker 4Nice, there we go.
Speaker 1You're back there. I think I can speak for the Leos that I'm one of the very few Leos that can take accountability in most things.
Speaker 3The whole room changed, everybody changed.
Speaker 1So what you guys trying to say? Leos got some kind of stigma on us? Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 6Let's talk about it. Let me hear it. Leo's have a really high ego. It's really hard for them to.
Speaker 2Very self-centered, very self-centered. Remember the lion in the waves?
Speaker 4That's the lion, the lion in the waves, all that roar, but it's like.
Speaker 1But it's really like shadowed in there.
Speaker 2It's like, yeah, but it's really like. It's really like shadowed in there.
Speaker 6It's like mm-hmm, mm-hmm but we appreciate it like honestly it's, they should learn about it, that's just like. Hey, I make a mistake, it's okay that's the problem?
Speaker 2it's not. We're not perfect.
Speaker 1We appreciate you not being typical of you okay, thank you, so I guess I'm on the other side.
Speaker 2You just something, something something mixed inside of you.
Speaker 3They did you like the army, they broke you down to build you right, yeah.
Speaker 6That's what we are. That's like we have to bring you up after.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, so we already got on their relationship. What about yours Like? How are you dating? Are you in?
Speaker 6a relationship.
Speaker 1You're single.
Speaker 6Yes, planning to be single for a while.
Speaker 3Oh she just got a heartbreak. I'll say that you just left something for sure.
Speaker 6No, no, no it's been like a year, yeah, since, but a year year now, in 2025, planning on it's time to have some fun planning to learn, just learning, working on myself a little bit more. Sometimes, when you're out in a relationship for too long, um, you forget about you. You definitely need to work on yourself. So I was married for like 13 years. I met my ex-husband once 18. Then we got divorced and I met someone else and, um, it didn't work out neither.
Speaker 6So after like four years, so it's just my time now all right, that's okay, take it take it for yourself, and it is vegas. It's hard to find the right person it's not that I don't want it I don't want to date. It's just that I just want to wait because it's the right person to come to you when it's time, when it's time for you, you'll get it when you say it's vegas.
Speaker 3What do you mean, though, for the viewers, like you know, because this is all over the world.
Speaker 6So when you say it's vegas, explain what you mean by that vegas I mean, I'm not going to say Vegas, I feel just today's day, dating it's just a game, right now, and see how much you can get from that person that you're seeing and you're like, and that's just the time. Before was just the time, now they, it's more.
Speaker 3It's like transactional.
Speaker 6It's transactional A hundred percent. So it's really hard to find a person that click on you and definitely have singles and definitely work together and see it as a family, because that's what we're looking for. We don't want to joke, and if it's a joke, then just say it at the beginning and we're going to play that game together, but don't just slide.
Speaker 3But then when you play that game, sometimes you guys, that tango doesn't go your way.
Speaker 6Do you know what happened with guys? Guys are always afraid to admit that they are in a game just because they want to play the game.
Speaker 3We're all playing games Because they want to play the game. We're all playing games. Hold on. We're all playing games.
Speaker 6Let's be fair, I agree with you. But guys always go emotional. They know that we need that emotional part. We work by emotions, so sometimes they feel they're not going to get it. If they're honest in the beginning, they feel that they have to play the game.
Speaker 3That's one million percent Exactly.
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Speaker 6But that's the problem, that's like. It's like guys hate drama but sometimes you guys made the drama because lies, but I feel like that's women now too.
Speaker 2I feel like everyone right now is playing games about it, and no one is actually ready to take it serious and when you are there's.
Speaker 2You know, just because you're ready doesn't mean the person is now ready to. And I feel like, right now, that same thing you know, you're saying, it's the same thing for women. I've. I have so many friends who I'm sitting here watching where they're sitting here playing a game with these men acting like it's this, acting like it's that, but then complaining at the same time about, oh my gosh, now he doesn't want to take me serious, now that I want to.
Speaker 1You guys, you've been playing it as a joke too, you both have been playing this game the entire time.
Speaker 3Now it no one's winning so, because this is the biggest divide that I've ever seen, like that's what. That's the real topic. The real topic is in 2025, this is the biggest divide I've ever seen of like men and women.
Speaker 3Cause of the and it's. I blame these, not like, not this conversation, but these conversations in podcasts, cause they didn't use they didn't like use this on some like influence and try to do this. And the third they did this to be like I don't like this about you and I don't like this about you. We're not supposed to be sitting here talking bored. Okay, like that's number one, because the first thing first is what do you, you, you and all women like you, guys, all like fantasy? I don't give a fuck what nobody says, because that's programmed inside of you oh yeah, I'm a disney princess right give me my fairy tale and even like 40 years old, we still want that Until you die.
Speaker 3And that's why I have to reverse engineer what you said, because it's like, at the end of the day, when you talk about that, like a woman always wants to be tricked and manipulated and all that stuff. That's why you guys always go for the bad guy. The nice guy, you guys don't want him Very rarely that. You want him Very, very rarely.
Speaker 4That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1I feel it goes when you're ready for it. I think it goes when you're ready for it when you're ready for it.
Speaker 3You don't want that boom so you got your prince charming, but after you're ready for it, yes, that's all, that's even what guys do that we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1Like um, like originally, you start dating for potential and then you start realizing, like the potential king is only gonna lead me so far.
Speaker 2Um yeah, that's, I think. The problem is, you go for potential and then you're wondering why you're doing it. You think, oh, he has potential. No, either find what you want or you don't. And if you don't know what you want, wait till you figure it out yeah, because.
Speaker 3But see, but a potential is the thing. See, that's the fucked up part, because it's like if you're going for potential, you're not trying to just get to know the person. So initially, if we just trying to get some pussy and y'all just looking for potential, then ain't nobody trying to figure out who the fuck you are and that's where you don't know what you want at that point no, no, fuck, what you want.
Speaker 3It's about who like hi, how are you doing? What's going on? I'm going to talk to you for two, three, four months and I'm talking about from a man's perspective. So I know, I know this is going to be no one's going to agree with this and all that type of stuff on the man's perspective.
Speaker 3But I'm from that era when we was remember, we was young and used to talk to a girl for like two and three weeks or a month or whatever, and then you finally not that you just get the pussy, but you actually know who you're fucking, not, not, not after the dray's fuck or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you actually know who the fuck it is, that's all. So we don't do that. And I'm talking, I'm talking about men. I'm taking accountability because I I men don't do that. I do that like I can talk to a woman, for she can be in another state for two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, ten months, and time goes by and by the time I've met her. So when I fuck her, she knows what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 6It's different, but you know but that is our fault too. Like we, we definitely go easy as well. So it's it's it's not just you guys, and I understand. It's like if you have, let's say, on the market outside, on the dating market, if you have like 10 girls and then it's like three there, it's like hard for you, they're making you work harder. The other seven are easy. It's like you're gonna forget about those three. It's like three. It's like hard for you, they're making you work harder. The other seven are easy. It's like you're going to forget about those three. It's like no, you I'm saying in general, no, you're right. Like, why are you going to work hard?
Speaker 3for those three, it's because those seven options are presented.
Speaker 2It's like what movie it was. He was like go like this. He went like this and he was like what?
Speaker 3the fuck. She's a six, so it's like it's too many options, and that's what social media is. It's too many options, and that's what's going on right now.
Speaker 2Everyone's looking for what's next or who's you know what's going to be better.
Speaker 4Exactly like period.
Speaker 1So it's like and that never, I don't want the bigger but, I just want what's mine, what is yours right, exactly what you choose.
Speaker 3But it's what you choose, and the thing in which it sounds like you were saying is that you guys have all the power when it comes to that. Like that part of it, we can't fuck you unless you allow us to fuck you. And what? When you, you guys, lose sight of that shit?
Speaker 6Even more than that. I feel that you don't go. It's, it's funny, but like, even when we go to a place we go to a nightclub we know, we, I feel that we opened the door for that person to go out and approach you and talk to you. So we know when the guy is looking at us, we know it's maybe one crazy guy that goes without, you know nothing, but it's like usually we know we open that door for you guys to talk to us, for you guys to invite us out, but they don't even move like that now because men be on social media.
Speaker 3They don't even holler at women. Like that, no more. Because, everybody hides behind something. No one wants to say, hey, how are you doing? Because everybody's afraid of everybody knows in five seconds. When you meet somebody, y'all know, we all know, it ain't no ifs, ands or buts. When you meet a chick, you know I want to fuck her I'll say you know, you want to fuck in your mind. Whether you do or not, your mind tells you that they keep you talking.
Speaker 2It's for women too, you know. If you want to see that man again you know, if you want to sleep with him, you know what it is, even if you choose not to like, you know in your head oh, I would, I would, I would sleep with him.
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Speaker 6But it's a physical attraction you do have is a chemistry there's a person, that you don't even talk to that person yet and you're like, hmm, that may be a yes, yeah, and so it's. It's, it's the chemistry. I feel that it's the energy and the the clicks that you do so what do you feel like?
Speaker 3men are like lacking and not doing that I don't blame them. I don't blame them is it just like the trauma or pain. I'm not trying to be dramatic no, no, no the things that you went through that, has you like? Okay, I'm not dealing with a man.
Speaker 6No, it was my fault 100%. Oh, wow Is this a first Hold on.
Speaker 3Accountability.
Speaker 4In.
Speaker 3Elevated Talks history. This might be a first. It was your.
Speaker 6I mean, I don't know if you mind sharing. He was 26, so definitely we we, it's like we always like a woman. When we get a man, and especially when you're young, I feel that sometimes we change a lot just to like be there, be the piece they need, and once you start growing, you're like, hey, hold on, this is not me. Hey, I don't like that.
Speaker 2I don't like this and also someone who that age difference is a huge thing, especially when you're that young. I feel like it's a little different as women. As we get a little bit older, I feel like it's okay to date older a little bit more, but when you're that young, you haven't even been to a bar yet. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3You can't even go. I want to go.
Speaker 6He can't, he can go and do that
Speaker 4but you? Where'd you get that number from?
Speaker 1I get it. I get it from women, oh, okay.
Speaker 4Because they say men don't mature until y'all 45.
Speaker 3So what do you think about that? To me, that's all finance, that's all predicated on finance.
Speaker 1Okay, all right, I'm going to break it down real simple. So a woman sees immature from the from the moment that she started getting attention from guys. So her mature, she doesn't get mature.
Speaker 3That's why I said around 40, because that's when she got to go through, because he's not talking about that he's. It's a different type of maturity. Okay, so.
Speaker 1And so a man like you know he's naturally immature. Um, that's why I always use a car analogy. People hate it, right, but I like it, because a car like a guy is like a piece of shit. Car like he has to build himself up to be something great, you know um and hold on and hold on with that and you guys will never appreciate that.
Speaker 3Just always know that what?
Speaker 6do you?
Speaker 3mean that moment, what he just said. We have to build ourselves up to be great. You guys will never and I'm going to explain. But you guys will never appreciate that. And the reason why you'll never appreciate it is because you've never seen it. You never saw it happen.
Speaker 4You showed up to something that was already made, so women don't contribute to the building of that you guys just show up to the house.
Speaker 6It's a really good one go for it.
Speaker 3No, but listen, I'm not talking about an isolated but you guys are going to do isolated incidents.
Speaker 3I'm talking about majority. So when I say these things, I'm talking about and in general, I'm never talking about what's going on between us, the bottom line. At the end of the day, that's what I see. I always see that Speak for the majority, not the minority, right? So when we had these conversations, I'm always talking about the general, I'm not talking about, you know, our nuance this, that and the third, because usually, for some reason, everybody's like I don't get it.
Speaker 6What do you mean? We don't see it. We do see it. Well, no, we pretend that we don't. I didn't see it.
Speaker 3I said you'll never understand it fully, just same way that we'll never understand certain aspects of it. So it's like up to a man, like you said. You said you want them to be attractive, all these other things right, like that's an issue. I can tell you what I'm looking for no but I'm saying initially, before a man says anything, we need to have the initial I want to do something with this person, correct?
Speaker 6Not necessarily.
Speaker 1So somebody you're just going to walk up to and he's just not attractive to you. I'll put it in more lamer terms. Back to the car analogy. So you guys look at it from a different standpoint, because you guys are mercedes ferraris, right?
Speaker 3but do you guys understand him saying that?
Speaker 2yeah, you guys yeah, okay cool I'm an old school girl, I'll get old school and I'll redo the whole thing you stood at old school.
Speaker 191 mercedes. That's still worth a lot of money. Okay, you know the one that Deion Sanders had right.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 1So somebody like him, myself like okay, we're that car at the junkyard right there and as time goes hopefully not all guys. You got to build yourself up and eventually, if you do it right and if you do what you got to do and if you be accountable, take a responsibility, then fucking you'll become this prize car at the auction. You know, I'm saying so to make a long story short.
Speaker 3No, but ask them the question say so, after we put all that work in, do you guys give it the credit, or is it just like whatever?
Speaker 2because we put the. I think it don't speak for you.
Speaker 3I think we, as the general regular woman you believe that the job?
Speaker 6that's my question. All right, that's the all right. Social media girls no that's enough.
Speaker 3So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6So that's my point but I don't think that's the world. I think that's the. We're looking into it, but that it's not very world.
Speaker 3Very true, that's what's being shown.
Speaker 6It's not If you go more deep on it inside like we're still one we're still one like the, the the teenager love like emotional.
Speaker 4We're still looking for this thing, yeah.
Speaker 6So it's like I'm going with the card analysis. Some of us were born with that privilege and that's awesome. Like we're lucky.
Speaker 4Some women or not all?
Speaker 6No, I don't think all Not all women no not all women, all women are?
Speaker 1I don't think so.
Speaker 6But it's so great when you find a person and say, yes, maybe you are the John Corey, maybe I'm a Mercedes. Let's do that, let's work together. I will give you this one.
Speaker 2But that's you giving it. So I think what I think, what, from what I'm gathering, is you're saying you guys had to do that for yourself, whether there was someone there to help you, no matter what, you internally had to do it. So where I disagree with the whole situation of you guys saying that that's it's not. You know most, it's mostly all women. No, it's not there. Now they've also put that work into themselves to make them one thing.
Speaker 2We're looking at an age where how many of these girls are sitting? I'm not talking, I'm, but no, but I'm saying right now, just think about it. Like with her analogy, what she just said is it's women, women, this, or women that you know, women want this. No, the same thing for women. They're still putting their clothes on, they're still sitting here. Oh, I'm gonna buy this, I'm gonna buy that, I'm gonna go buy a new ass. I going to go buy a new ass, I'm going to go buy a new tit, I'm going to go get my lips and I'm going to go do this. So it's the same thing.
Speaker 2Women are building themselves up in the same way but no, not in the same, not in the same instance. But now that's also the thing you're saying that women don't see this. Women are not possible.
Speaker 3That's like us understanding you guys going through pregnancy.
Speaker 2We will never Okay, so you'll never understand a man building himself to be something that you'll say hi.
Speaker 3when he says hi, what's your name?
Speaker 4So you guys don't get it because it's just normal. So you don't think we have to build ourselves up. That's the same with women. No, you don't think we have to build ourselves up. No, you don't think we have to build up shit. No, is that all?
Speaker 3women. No, you don't have to build up shit.
Speaker 4But I'm saying is that all?
Speaker 3women.
Speaker 1If you're beautiful, listen, listen, listen. Hey, but that's the thing, sorry. So If you're not, we'll still fuck with you.
Speaker 2Guess what?
Speaker 3That's where I'm saying that's my point, that I'm saying, that's what she. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1no, that's cat, so are you going to? Fuck an ugly girl wait, hold on, and if it's a tricky Tuesday, and if it's a slow Tuesday if it's a slow Tuesday. I'm going to debunk that myth right, because have you seen most of our baby mamas? Yeah, come on now have you ever seen? The kind of like damn, this baby, this child's mom is not the business and the first baby mom.
Speaker 3you know because we're all in the industry, so you know how the joke is. It's like the first baby mom is like the project baby mom, like that's the one you had no money.
Speaker 6You know what I'm saying she was just using her, e no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3You know, go ahead.
Speaker 6I'm sorry, it's like what we were talking is like the marketing is different. Let's say that way.
Speaker 3The marketing, the marketing. I'm in marketing, so I love that.
Speaker 6Yes. So you, as the guys, you guys have to work more on the financial and the personal growth. That's your investment on yourself and, like guys on the girl's side, we have to invest in our physic, too. We have to look good because, you guys are not going to go for it, so that's what she means when she was we will never agree with that.
Speaker 3She's got to come to you. That's what she means ugly.
Speaker 1They got it. They got a saying. They say the twos, the fives are the funnest yeah, but she's us at some point.
Speaker 2She's still in some way has to usually approach you first. You're not going to approach her first. No, you might meet her at why you can't they?
Speaker 1can't because, like most of the time, like like, yeah, the looks is a1 amazing. We love it you know what?
Speaker 2maybe I don't understand it, because I don't have that problem. Thank you, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You can't see past your nose on this one.
Speaker 3Yeah, and that happens. And all of you guys, you guys are all very good looking, so come on, guys, that's not fair and you trying to act like okay, not necessarily up, and it's funny If you said something funny, that's cool, but I'm talking about a million people a day, right, I've seen women that look like they're about to fly away with their eyelashes and have Down syndrome instead of a man.
Speaker 3And that's why I'm like why are you playing? Why are you? You know, you just see, she's like hold on this really big girl and shout out to the BBWs whatever.
Speaker 1She wasn't like a BBW, but some people like that.
Speaker 3No, in your field, some people like that Hold on In your field. What's bigger Like, yeah, the Instagram girls. But when it comes to porn because I don't want to, you know, say corn, I think you should say porn, okay. Well, when it comes to porn, it's like there's more people that are regular, so regular like the fat, weird shit that's more popular than fucking a bad bitch, because nerds know they can't get a bad bitch, they can pay for it. Right, a woman knows that she can get a nigga. That is of the success or you know whatever. The liking men know, if my shit ain't on, I can't even approach the bitch.
Speaker 2We know that that's why I got that's why, I'm saying the understanding and the respect of that.
Speaker 3And we'll never believe, and I'm just giving you the like. This is the thing. When I'm saying stuff you don't have to agree with it, Just always know that's how we always see it. That's valid. Yeah Well, a man will never think that you understand. Say, hey, okay, okay, I'll let you buy me a drink. We have to have what Terrence Money good looks, maybe some cologne. It's so many variables that are in your subconscious because you're just immediately when you see me, you're just, oh, my God, why do I like this guy? There's a fucking 150 reasons why my good looks, my this, my this, my, but you act like it's nothing. Oh well, you know, he just built himself up. No, this is not no car. This shit is like you feel what I'm saying, sir. It's like you don't want the.
Speaker 1You don't want the, the the starting product, you want the finished product I don't.
Speaker 4I disagreed on that I feel that it's like it's that.
Speaker 6I feel that it's just like what are you looking for?
Speaker 3if you're looking for the right person, if you're looking for the person to build together with, you can get it so you can find it, but y'all are women, y'all don't look what the fuck y'all did you look for your man? Did you look for him?
Speaker 4did you look for your man? She Did you look for him? No, okay, did you?
Speaker 3look for your man. Did you look for your man?
Speaker 4She knows.
Speaker 2I got her I don't look, but I never said I look.
Speaker 6I don't look for it. That was a mistake. I was looking for it before.
Speaker 3That's fine Look since we always talk in nuance, well, let me just be a fair nuance. You guys are all beautiful men, nice try.
Speaker 2I have a lot of friends who I know they do go looking for a man.
Speaker 3Okay, how's that working for them? Did they find them?
Speaker 2It's not. That's why they're still in the place that they are.
Speaker 3Fuck with her.
Speaker 6That's the thing it's when you're, not when you're looking.
Speaker 2It's typically, you're looking for the wrong reason. You're looking for the wrong reason.
Speaker 3This is how the man and woman stuff goes. It's very simple. You guys are supposed to cuff and chastity belt the kumtikanana and we're trying to manipulate you guys and talk to you and do whatever the fuck we can do to get in there by any means, except for the grape word. That's all it is. We don't care about all this other shit, we just want to get with this thing.
Speaker 1This thing is stupid.
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Speaker 3Welcome back, swimivel the camera, but that's all I'll be saying. That should be wild man. Okay, we back, we back, you know what the part is.
Speaker 6I don't understand what guy's emotional part you guys are not open.
Speaker 1Oh, I love that. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 6I disagree. I disagree too. I think it's just communication. No, because this is the thing with men.
Speaker 2You have to find a way to open that. Men and women, I believe we all have the same Some men will say they don't got the same emotions.
Speaker 3I don't believe that.
Speaker 1I believe you guys do. Let's do this. Let's go around the table there. You go us talk so they won't think that we're fucking clowns. Okay, so we're going to start here. Go there and then we'll bring it back to there.
Speaker 4Okay, what do we think?
Speaker 1What's the question? Yeah, what's the? So ask the question again.
Speaker 6So you said I don't understand the emotional part with the guys.
Speaker 3Okay, but what part of the emotional?
Speaker 1part. That's the thing. It's not Okay, so scoot down to a. It's not.
Speaker 6I definitely hold on, I'll go that way, this way. Okay, I feel that guys are not often to talk about emotional, and that's where the communication issues have with between females and males, when it goes with like oh I don't understand you, you don't understand me, it's more about the emotional thing. It's like I understand.
Speaker 3Why don't men do that? Is that the question? It's like I understand we're like completely different things. So the question is why don't?
Speaker 6men do that. Is that the question? It's not.
Speaker 3I'm just saying that it's like because we're talking about that, we don't understand that you guys grow and then build together.
Speaker 6That part. I definitely understand that. It's like the part that I have a really hard time. It's just not because I don't understand. You guys have feelings.
Speaker 1A hundred percent. We all have feelings, it's just that you guys don't talk about those feelings.
Speaker 2Let them answer first and then we'll give it, we'll go in a circle. I feel like that's definitely not necessarily the case. I feel like if someone is not emotionally open and available to you, they're probably not for you. Any man who is actually going to be emotionally available to you, or any man who emotionally has you, are the person they truly want and truly, you know, feel certain ways they're going to open up to you and it's just going to be something natural for that. And I feel like I've met, I've met men who I'm like oh, this person just seems so emotionally unavailable, whatever. No, they were emotionally unavailable to me. They may have, you know, wanted to talk to me, whatever, whatever physical thing, whatever it was, but emotionally they weren't giving it to me because it was I wasn't the person for them.
Speaker 2And I feel like I've met so many men who even just friendships, even like, let's be real like okay, me and G G and I have some really deep conversations that are outside of anything. But I know for a fact he doesn't have those conversations with other people and it's because of who them, why, who we are like, how we are as people, our friendship, our relationship, has been able to evolve to where we're able to have those conversations, those communications, and it was like that from the beginning with us. We've both been open and honest with each other. But we also click and we have. That's why now we have our you know business relationships, our friendship. This is basically my best friend. Like we talk about everything. And I have men that I've dated who I wouldn't even become close to a relationship like that.
Speaker 3And it's not the fact that it's anything wrong. I won't talk to other women that way. No, tell them why.
Speaker 2It's because he's not going to. It's like why would I open up to someone like you're, you're, you're done, you can't have that conversation, you're not intellectually there. And again, it could be a thing where just because intellectually someone else clicks with someone doesn't mean you will. So if you and I eat, that's with females too. If you and I click one way doesn't mean that you two are going to click that way. Or if I click with both of you and we're great friends doesn't mean everyone else is going to have that. And that's even like with men like I've. You know my partner. Him and I have great communication and we, you know, we can both be ourselves with each other. But I have watched him and I can see he can't do that with other people and it's because it's he emotionally is not available to them. But to me he is emotionally available and it's all about is that person for you or not? I understand and I agree.
Speaker 6And I agree with you, but that's what we go to Like when we're talking about partners, like a relationship. We should be emotional, available for that person, because what's the point to be in a relationship with someone where you can even express yourself about the most important part? Because, like economy, yeah, it is important, but if you don't have the mental, like the emotional, right there, then you're not even going to be able to go to work, you're not going to perform the same. So I agree with you, but it's so hard, even being in a relationship where the person opens like, if that's not your person and I understand that then walk away yeah, because we're wasting both of our time walk away.
Speaker 6It's hard to do that it is it's harder to walk away, but there's people.
Speaker 3You guys leave men people don't walk away.
Speaker 2People will stay in a relationship because we have no care, because they feel like they need to, or they have to, or they've put too much time, too much money, too much effort. It's time, yeah, and I would tell you about that.
Speaker 6I feel sometimes that you guys actually force us to walk away, because sometimes it's even harder for the guy to make the decision of breakout I feel sometimes people stay until they're disgusted now yeah, until you were disgusted
Speaker 2you will continue to come back until you're disgusted.
Speaker 4That's most people, that's even most women, and that's why Women and men that's the car analogy To the wheels fall off. We beat it to the wheels fall off.
Speaker 2Once you're disgusted, you're done.
Speaker 3Yeah, but no man wants to pick up that dirty, dusty shit that was for the wheels that fell off. See, that'd be the problem, because everybody damaged.
Speaker 2It's just a whole bunch of walking. So, with what you were saying, now you're choosing not to really date because of the dating pool and all of this, but you also want to find yourself. So now, whatever picked up pieces you are right. Now. That wheel, now you're going to go find the right car to put your wheel on.
Speaker 6I agree, but at the same time I'm afraid of I'm going to be honest, because I don't want to be that person that then it's not fitting with the other guy.
Speaker 2If you're not afraid, you're never gonna get what you want if you're not afraid this
Speaker 3is a fucking. You gotta be afraid because you take accountability for fucking up, so you gotta be afraid that you don't make the same mistake, right?
Speaker 6yeah, no. But what I mean with fuck it up? It's just like not choosing on the right time. That's what. That was my mistake.
Speaker 2We like I'm like a hundred percent. No, no, no, it was a time thing then with my husband.
Speaker 6We were together for 13 years, but I was like the last five years we were not good you stayed till you were disgusted and that's no, I stay with him. Yeah, technically 100 percent, until you say that's it, it's my brother, I can't do this no more but it's like literally it's like I asked him, I asked him I told him, like let's go to therapy, because I'm this is not worth it. It's, it's, it's something, it's run here and uh, uh, you guys are don't open to emotion, so that's it.
Speaker 6It ends, and then after so many years that we were talking about with this name movie, I, after so many years having issues, then I was soon like I want it, I want it, I want it and I kind of went to like relationship that it was not the right one. But then once you get emotion and once you work for it because you work for it then you don't want to give up, you want to keep going until it got discussed. And then when it got at that point is when it ended and that's when I understand that it's not my time.
Speaker 6It's time to work on it.
Speaker 1Absolutely, let's, let's, let's just introduce her. We got another friend in the show.
Speaker 4Hello hello, you guys are having a great conversation introduce yourself.
Speaker 1Um, I could give you guys a backstory, but I'll let her do it um and uh um.
Navigating Reality TV Dating Shows
Speaker 5I'm finesse um hide your wallet that is my real let's get that out of there Spelled F-Y-N-E-S-S. I was on the latest season of Pop the Balloon or Find Love with Arlette Amule oh yeah, I just booked my guy Mozzy for yes on that.
Speaker 3Did you see that episode?
Speaker 5I think so, I think so.
Speaker 3I think it's at like 2 million views.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5Oh, that'd be good views. Yeah, yeah, we do get views. Mine came mostly from like other platforms like TikTok and Instagram, but yeah, I was pretty much known for not cutting them in any slack. If I saw something I didn't like, I called it out immediately and the producer was getting kind of mad at me because I didn't really give the guys a chance Before. I was just like no, I can see this is not going to work out. I can see this is not going to work out, and yeah that's what I'm like today.
Speaker 2It's valid, you know what you want, that's good.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1So needless to say, you know what you want that's good so, needless to say, you know what you want. Are you in a relationship? So you're single.
Speaker 2I hope she was. If she was on pop the balloon just recently, I would hope she was single, I hope she wasn't going on that show, or she's single now real talk.
Speaker 1So I watch pop the balloon every week. You know, not only that, only arlette's one, like I don't watch all the other ghetto ass ones and shit, like you know. So shout out to pop the balloon, um, um.
Speaker 2But yeah, some of the other ones I just can't fucking I've been enjoying, like the ones what the 20 is it 20? V1 or something like that, where it's the ones where they put the celebrities with all these girls. Those ones be those ones be killing'd be like okay what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3That was the most viral recently.
Speaker 1I like Arlette's shit. I love Arlette's Because.
Speaker 3Arlette's is. It's the original. My mom likes to watch that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3My mom likes that shit, so that's a smart situation, you know when Mozzy went and did it demographic with the type of people they put a lot of different, different from top to bottom.
Speaker 2They got the. We got our junk cars and we got our.
Speaker 1We got our brand new 2025s I'll watch that shit and I'll be like, first off, this nigga's not gonna get picked because he's way too short. I don't need everyone ever no that girl's not gonna get picked because she has a fucked up attitude she walked in here looking what is that? She says she can't cook the last one, I was like 90% of these guys are not gonna get fucking picked on here, like, and that's what happened 90% of them didn't get fucking picked but that's life like.
Speaker 3If you ask a regular woman, you guys think that, like your average man is getting a hook. You don't, so we're not talking to you, you don't. Let me go on the court, yeah yeah, but you know, your regular woman, you guys think like your regular guy gets a lot of pussy and shit like that, and these guys they're not getting pussy like that.
Speaker 2Because it's a process. Even the ones with money aren't do you know how much money some of these men. I know these I know these men in like these industries and I'm sitting here running these girls pages and you know guys pages too, like corny is corny. You know the people. These people are spending so much money. They have rich men spending thousands on online stuff. You're not even, you don't even get to touch it. You just are gonna send me a thousand dollars for a three minute video on territory.
Speaker 1Like you know, like motherfuckers, like fresh and fit used to say. You know they don't think they're a podcast anymore I haven't seen anything they got deplatformed and then, like, they broke up, they don't, you know, well, fuck them. Um, because they, you know why? Because I say this to say like they had a lot of dudes thinking that they were fucking high value man, man they got a lot of weirdo guys.
Speaker 1Yeah, they had a lot of weirdos and a lot of sales and shit, um, and they let. They're part of the reason how that I guess the manosphere got infiltrated by fucking losers and shit, right. So then you, you create this pool where every guy thought he was fucking high value or he was a he-man-woman-hater and shit.
Speaker 2And let's be honest, like you, just said like oh, everyone's a high value man nowadays. I'm still over here and that shit.
Speaker 1Money just fucking gets you into different doors. Money just gets you into different fucking doors. That's it. Other than that, like you have to. That's why I say fucking social social media. Trying to date on social media is a fake place.
Speaker 2It's not a real place. You know, I'm saying you gotta, you gotta do the groundwork, yeah yeah, you know like it's not a real place.
Speaker 1You, it's like playing barbies. I got catfish before I said it plenty of times when I was a kid, though I was like in high school this is before like catfish was a thing. You know what?
Speaker 4I'm saying I definitely catfished for a while, was fun.
Speaker 1Thank god this girl she, um, I said it plenty of times on here so y'all give a fuck but this girl. So this is a myspace or black planet, one of them, you know I'm aging myself. I was showing my age right um so I missed my space well, he's on my space and she was friends with another friend.
Speaker 1So she's hitting me up and you know, like, for some odd reason, like I got a height limit you know what I'm saying. So I'm wondering why, like she's sending pictures to my because, like you know, you get charged to send the pictures to the phone. So she's sending pictures to my email of her from the neck up, and so I'm like, oh, what the fuck? You know what?
Speaker 1I'm saying so I'm like yeah, meet me at YMCA so I have my homeboy and her homegirl. We all meet up at the YMCA, so we waiting for 30 minutes. I'm like, oh, they about to stand us up. You know, typical woman shit, right.
Speaker 3And so.
Speaker 1I'm like I'm about to do this. Fucking stood up, right. I get there waiting and I peep, I see some girls get off the bus. I'm like I hope these are not these girls, right? So long story short, the girl that was talking to me. She looked like fucking big bird she was like six two.
Speaker 4Say why did you want them to be them?
Speaker 1okay, yeah, I was like you, you know, like with anything, um, when I was younger, when I was in high school, shit like that, my excuse my sisters was always my excuses. So I'll say, oh shit, I gotta go pick up my sister from school. You know what I'm saying. Or like, you know, if a sexual situation wasn't going the right way, I was like I ain't feeling this no more, I gotta go get my sister right. So in this instance, I was like yo, I gotta go with my sister. I forgot, I gotta pick her from school. And so, um, she followed me and I had to literally run home and shit and like like she was trying to follow me back home and the second time it was this girl that looked like precious precious, the fat bitch precious
Speaker 5yeah, what's wrong with precious?
Speaker 1that's not my speed, you know she got dead serious.
Speaker 3They got all quiet.
Speaker 1It was like hold on my speed, you know it's someone's speed, yeah definitely which is valid someone.
Speaker 2That's a 10 to someone yeah, sure, oh, that's well.
Speaker 3That's the whole. That's the whole point. There's more regular looking people than there's good looking people.
Speaker 1Yeah you do know that. Yeah, I gotta think like I would not call you beautiful if you're not beautiful, I would not call you pretty. If you're not pretty, I would not call you gorgeous.
Speaker 2if you're not gorgeous, that is your. That's your opinion on them, though, so live your life.
Speaker 1Yeah, but most of the time, as he knows, it's not fucking gorgeous, it's only I just don't, I don't, I don't like this about you, but you're gorgeous. It's only a select few of gorgeous shit, like I don't like to use certain words loosely. I don't like to use love loosely. I don't like to use beautiful loosely. I don't like to use gorgeous loosely. And it's a few other words right, and those are something like you're fucking blowing that shit up and you're fucking up their marketplace. You know what I'm saying and they know that they're probably a solid five. It's a perfect fucking marketplace for that it's okay like there's, like what?
Speaker 1eight billion people most people are a five.
Speaker 3I like solid sevens, to be honest with you. Well, solid 7. Well, you see, if you got that's above average but is it just?
Speaker 2are we talking just physically, just physical, and then let the personality of everything else and you got a 10, I'm down with a 7.
Speaker 6What's this core from like? Just for the view we just talking about looks we just talking about, just man looks she's a sick yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 4yeah, that's valid can you see a personality in a girl when you first see her immediately?
Speaker 3I only fuck with women that got a personality. I can't fuck with people that ain't got a personality that shit ain't that shit ain't gonna last. Some of these girls are boring most of them.
Speaker 2The worst thing is when you go to the club and the girl you're like just you know, just pretty just you know that's it but then they're just sitting there like this the whole time and I'm over here just like. So, guys, in my own world I'm dancing, talking to everyone else. This is miss in your own world. I'm always in my own world.
Speaker 1Most of the time women, um, like guys are a lot of guys are scared to approach attractive women. You guys ever get that like, yeah, I, I get it. I hear it all the time Intimidation factor.
Speaker 4I don't know I wonder how many people like before Rihanna was with A$AP, how many guys would approach her. I'm pretty sure guys approach. Would y'all approach Rihanna? Facts, I mean, I've already never you know. Okay, I mean I, somebody out there, that's you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, possibly she a Pisces like me, it's a wrap.
Speaker 1I'm not necessarily the approaching type, but yes, I will approach her Okay.
Speaker 3Because, she's human like everybody else.
Speaker 4Ain't nothing Like come on man Does that kind of debunk, you guys not wanting to approach somebody that you might think is of a higher caliber.
Speaker 3What you mean.
Speaker 1I mean what you mean, I mean you guys are saying like the intimidation factor? No, most men, most men. You asked us. Yeah, my bad, excuse me like I led with it in the beginning that's his insecurities.
Speaker 6We have our own. You guys have you guys insecurities too.
Speaker 4So my insecurity is about fucking failing, exactly failing that's our biggest insecurity what the turndown or failing our biggest insecurities are attached to what y'all but I but I feel like that's valid for a man.
Speaker 2I feel like if a man isn't afraid of failing, like why would you do it? Because at the end of the day, you're not only like again, it is we're looking at my, my viewpoint on relationships then at that point, if he's not afraid of failing, then that means that me, our children, our home, everything can just be all lost and you're not worried about if we lose all of that. Right, and at the end of the day, for you know, again, I have my business, I have this, but again, that's not my first priority. If my first priority is going to be the home and a man's not afraid of failing, for that what are you going to do?
Speaker 4Because, at the end of the day, you have all of us on your back now.
Speaker 2You got to carry all of us, so if you fail, then what?
Speaker 6But I feel that goes with maturity too. So once you're mature enough, then you're afraid of failing Before you're. You don't care, because you don't care, you live day by day.
Speaker 3But he jet on my trick y'all. They didn't even see it. Because what bottom line is is our failure is attached to you guys.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's attached to what we're doing.
Speaker 3If you guys fail. Y'all, just fail yourselves.
Speaker 6I disagree with that Because, if you think about it, we're at a mall.
Speaker 3That's from a man's perspective's just the way that we made. Like you care about if we fail at life, like, oh my god, I can't provide for you if you fail that life. Oh my god, figure it out. We got your back.
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Speaker 2That's cool but that's if they haven't. If I get it, I get, I can. I feel like with women. If you are not in a relationship, I understand that fear of failure, especially when you do have kids, because obviously you're, you're now carrying that and even if they have a father, at the end of the day, not all men are going to have your guys's mindset where it's like, hey, I want to make sure that my home is taken care of, I'm going to continue to do this. So I feel like that's a big thing, like there are a lot of women who do have to be afraid of failing because, at the end of the day, they have no choice.
Speaker 2When I was, when I wasn't even okay, so after my divorce, like when I was single before everything, I was now carrying my little brother, who you know lives with me. I was then carrying my home. Half the time. I was carrying everyone. You know a lot of people who were living in my home too, helping out with this, helping out with that. I'm not saying anyone wasn't doing this, but no matter what, everything fell on me, whether they were roommates, whatever. If someone was short, I had to pick that up. So I get it.
Speaker 3How did that make you?
Speaker 2feel For me. I knew it wasn't going to be a forever thing. I don't necessarily mind it.
Speaker 3I don't, that's major.
Speaker 2No, and I knew it wasn't going to be a forever thing because for me, I knew I had those things. I know that I want that partner we wish we had that.
Speaker 3We wish we could be struggling and be like, oh my God, this isn't going to be forever.
Speaker 6Sometimes it'd be, it's going to be forever because she's going to get a guy that will be responsible for it.
Speaker 3No, not a guy, just she knows that she'll figure it out. No, I know what she meant by that yeah, yeah, yeah. She knows she'll figure it out.
Speaker 2So for me it's like I understand she was born with that. I understand both, yeah.
Speaker 3See, the Benz knows oh, this is just a carburetor, this is just ain't got no gas and ain't doing nothing. So you know what I'm saying. That's the disparity.
Speaker 4So you're saying women is not there when y'all out of gas and you're all bucket and they're not there? To no, no, no, this is the thing.
Speaker 3And see you guys come to the defense of that. We're never saying that.
Speaker 2No, a woman can tell either.
Speaker 3That's not the point. As a man, if me and him have this podcast right now and we start fucking up and talking weird, y'all will start looking around like what the fuck's going on? You have to understand. You guys get used to so much killerness and greatness. I tell this to my friends and my partners all the time. I'm doing great things. But if I already did a greatness one time, that's it. No one cares. I did something great. Oh, I just did a deal for this many million or this many million.
Speaker 3But the fact that you hear it you'd be like, oh okay, what happens to all that excitement? We're so subconsciously desensitized by greatness and good shit. It don't mean anything anymore. All this shit we'd be talking about, where's the meaning of it? Like you were talking about, there's no meaning, there's no substance. So it'd be kind of like where we at? So I get lost, like what's the real meaning of it? I'll sit down and want to talk to a woman and get to know her, but the minute she does that weird shit, it's like come on, nobody wants to. We don't want to deal with that shit. So it's always the, it's always the big divide. It's like the biggest disconnect ever, because niggas ain't shit and bitches ain't shit.
Speaker 3And we, we just want the pussy. And it's like y'all just want the dick when they want it. It's like do y'all even?
Speaker 2want it no more Like yeah, it'd just be, so weird.
Speaker 3You know what I mean. It'd just be weird.
Speaker 1Like I'm not talking about us. What would you say as a content creator? Like what is your biggest thing and misconceptions, and you know from?
Speaker 3a guys, I would say, will tell you oh what's the biggest misconception?
Speaker 5yeah, for her, or for you, too, being consecrated. Yeah, um, I'm not a content creator, but like just being this being in a conscious space. You know, I'm saying yeah, you know um, well, before that, I'm I'm not really, uh, a person that is very judgmental or has a certain expectation or a bar that somebody has to meet. If I decide that I'm gonna deal with you, then I'm gonna go full force and I'm not gonna expect you to do this.
Speaker 5That I don't even know if I don't even know if I like that, so I gotta deal with I've already felt like I'm a nuisance like I have to be dealt with I like about everyone, so there is gonna be something that you're just gonna be dealing with, just because you still want to put forth the effort with this person.
Building a Foundational Friend Zone
Speaker 2I have a question for you with that. So I I'm when I realized I didn't realize exactly who you were, but then I realized, okay, I did what I did watch yours. So in a sense I feel like you're saying that, but I'm not going to lie. It seems like you're also contradicting what you're saying because you're popped the balloon. It was pretty clear that there wasn't nothing you were going to deal with. So it's like obviously you weren't choosing any of those people to deal with. But it's like before that even just watching, there was like even just one little thing, and some of them, you know it could have just been little to everyone else around. But I know other people like I'm giving an opinion of what I think other people will also see if they've watched that You're now it seems like you're also kind of contradicting what you were saying. You know your feelings then and what you're saying now.
Speaker 2So it's like I didn't reject everybody, though I didn't pop my balloon on everybody, I saw, I saw, I saw that too I'm saying in the sense of you know, because that a lot of people, that is what you went viral for, so let's yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2So now, when people, when people see this, when people see that they're gonna- ask you, they're gonna ask you like okay, so you were doing this year, you know you were so hard on this, but now you're saying like you're not as hard, you know, on certain things. So that's like my question for you is like what is that? And it's not again, I'm not coming at you. I feel like you're being honest with the fact that if you choose to deal with someone, you're going to do it. But I can also see where other people who are going to watch this podcast are going to wonder what the pop balloon hmm, is it? Is it the?
Speaker 4same, is it contradicting, make it what I popped for.
Speaker 5Honestly, um, some of the things are edited out and some of the things we couldn't. Of course, yes, or um, of course we would be backpacking off of somebody else and they're like no, you have to come up with something else, you can't say that, of course. So that was what happened with me. Uh, some of the times. But, for instance, like the high water pants, I just I can't.
Speaker 4Most people think that it's just all.
Speaker 2no one, not a lot of people, don't realize, when it comes to a lot of social media stuff, that that is what's happening is they are editing out. They are doing that, and that's also why I asked you, because people are going to look at you in one way because of things you're saying here and there and that's why so it's like. That's why I was saying did you watch um?
Speaker 5bm talks to them, rbm talks to them part of it I didn't watch. I only yeah, we, we kind of got into it because, um, at the end of the show, we, everybody went out, everybody went out together. We all kicked in. We went to dinner. Um, we went to the club. I'm not a person that goes to the club, but I was down for the experience, of course. Um, even though I didn't reject the guys like once, I did get to know them. They were cool, but it was the fact you're rejecting them.
Speaker 5It's also people, people behave one way on tv no, um, that is true, but I wasn't specifically behaving one way and then differently.
Speaker 2Oh, I was saying you, I was talking about. I was talking about the man, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the man.
Speaker 5But um, it was a different we can tell you're your true self we have to worry about that it was just a different feeling, like okay, I'm looking at this person as a potential love interest, versus now I don't see you as a love interest anymore, so you can be cool so that it just the pressure just kind of goes away. Okay, well, hold on right there.
Speaker 3So you said we can't be this, but we just can be friends jedi, my trick. But you said we need to get back to being friends. So you see how that just happened. A man goes from I was about to get the pussy, now I'm in the friend zone, but you just said why can't we be friends? So which one is the? You see, yeah, it's very confusing well, you know.
Speaker 1So to clear it up with the viewers um, like going to shit, you probably should be friends first. You know I'm saying because, like I look at everything like a house, like if you just jump right to the ceiling, like there's no fucking foundation. You know I'm saying so you should probably be friends first and try to get to learn this, this person, um, and you know, like me I'm, I'm all for if I'm dating, like you, I'm learning different people as well. That's dangerous.
Speaker 3So you say, friends, what kind of friends? Because she okay, so no. I'm saying look at the disparity. She's describing, uh, this friend zone from people as well. That's dangerous. So when you say friends, what kind of friends? Because she okay, so no, I'm saying look at the disparity. She's describing this friend zone. You're describing that the minute this happens, nigga, you ain't, you're over here. So when you say, be friends with them to your average person, not us, like you.
Speaker 1Just that because that ain't easy, just because we do it effortless, that ain't easy. I'm not saying I'm your friend but I want to get into the i'ma get pussy zone. Yeah, not be into the friends? Well, most of the time, that's that's, that's the nigga's game. Is they? They'll friend, they'll play their friend role, they'll play their friend's own role to with hopes of getting pussy. But what I'm saying is when you meet somebody and you guys are dating and you guys are being intentional, you should be, you should start it off with a friendship.
Speaker 3If you're dating, are you in the friend that's you've given us, saying it's like, if you're dating, are you in the friends of? Just for your average guy? That's a five. Dating a woman? That's a five, two average people.
Speaker 2No, you're dating.
Speaker 3You're obviously not in dating each other there's no, you can't.
Speaker 2You're you, you can build a friendship.
Speaker 3But that's nigga lingo. White people don't say none of this talk that we just said here. They say want to go get coffee and your homegirl be like oh, what'd you go do?
Speaker 1I went on a date so come on well, hey, if you can't swim, you're bound to fucking drown. Build a builder, build it. Structures to the shit. Yeah, that's why I don't jump into. I never really jumped into a relationship because, like, I want you to know me first. I'm protecting you, but at the same time I want to know you. You know, I'm saying we might not be fucking compatible, we might just only be friends.
Speaker 4You know, I'm saying so that's a foundational friend zone right there, but I was gonna like that hold on. There's a foundational friend zone right there. I like that, hold on.
Speaker 6There's a big thing with that. It's like remember what he was saying we have the power to determine where you're going to be. That's what you were saying. We're the Mercedes, so you are taking the risk that we'll put you on the friend zone. When we put you on the friend zone, it's really hard to move to the other part. It's really hard to move to the other part. It's like you're always going to be on the frame zone. So I'm assuming that I would agree with like the the be friends, but you have to be friends on the like dating at the same time. Those two have to be together because they're that's so hard.
Speaker 6Man, that is not as when I mean it's like the friends with benefits, because your intentions it's being on a relationship. You don't want to be on the friend zone all the time so if you come on the frame zone and you left. I'll see you as a friend. It's really hard for you to get out of there to be honest with you.
Speaker 3What do you, what do you look for in a friend? Let's just do it.
Speaker 6You mean friend, friend or potential something else?
Speaker 3no, no no, no, just the word friend. If we're, if we're using this as a unisex term friend, what do you see as a friend?
Speaker 6I see like that it's a commitment to like. I have that person that would be there when I needed to as a friend. No benefits, just friends. I have that I can talk to the person about anything. I do have good friends Same gender, because I don't know. It's hard to like we talk like anything.
Speaker 2We understand each other.
Speaker 3We, we know each other, we they know that I'm here for them, and then I'm yeah, he sees what I'm doing you just described your man, all of that friend stuff.
Speaker 2You just everything you said. That's your man, so you don't have to say that when you're in a relationship, you have to have a friendship with the person you're in a relationship period, you have to have some friendship with the person you're in a relationship with Period.
Speaker 4You have to have some sort of friendship. Three words I like you. I have to like you.
Speaker 5Friendships are also compartmentalized too. I have friends, for certain things.
Speaker 2I got my party friend, I got my dinner friend, yeah there are a lot of different types of friends.
Speaker 5I got my everything friend.
Speaker 3But a man that's trying to be. That ain't trying to be, none of that, he just wants to be your man, and that gets guys, but that man is everything.
Speaker 4Then If you want to be my man, you're all of that you don't see it as a man in our friends.
Speaker 6It's like if you're a man, you have to be my friend too.
Speaker 3No, we see it as a man and that's inside of that. Yeah, from our standpoint, we see it as we are these things and these things. That's the byproduct of what the fuck we are.
Speaker 1No, no, no, Because you got to think like half the time a lot of people are in relationships that don't really like each other. You know what I'm saying. So we don't necessarily see it.
Speaker 4That happens over time. No, I'm not talking about that. Yeah, it didn't start out. I didn't like him.
Speaker 1Yeah, and start out, I didn't like him Most of the time. A lot of times you see a lot of bad characteristics or red flags or you don't like a lot of things about this person right out the bat, but you still say it.
Speaker 2There's something that benefits you. But sometimes the bad is good.
Speaker 3That's the shit you gotta deal with, like what she's talking about.
Speaker 5But you also have to call it though.
Speaker 4Am I dealing with this?
Speaker 2and I prefer that you would change that but again, it's a communication thing, because there's there's certain things, there are certain red flags that if you communicate them it may not actually be something or they may not realize oh, by me doing this it makes you feel this way. So that could be one thing where it's just like hey, you know, there's just some sort of barrier there. Or it could be a red flag where they're just like no, that's who the fuck I am. And either you're gonna accept it or you're not. And at that point, if you choose to stay, when they've already they've showed you over and over or they've showed you, that's on you. You have no choice either you accept this or get the fuck, get the fuck out, or you can stay here and do whatever.
Speaker 5Deal with the red flags, you deal with the red flags, you deal with the yellow flags.
Speaker 6Yep.
Speaker 5I agree with you.
Speaker 6I don't know if that was a good one.
Speaker 5But that's you who does that.
Speaker 1That's negotiable. Most women deal with the red flags and they are okay with dealing with the red flags.
Speaker 2Men do it too.
Speaker 6I really feel that we always have the mentality that's like he's going to change.
Speaker 3for me he's going to stop doing that.
Speaker 4That goes with the mature part, because I feel that that's because we were not ready.
Speaker 6We want to be in that relationship, even when we know that we're not going nowhere because we know that from the beginning that's good but when you are ready for a relationship as soon as you see the red flag, like she said, I'm not going to be able to deal with that.
Speaker 2Yeah but that's what people are looking, what you know, when someone is looking for a relationship, they're going to go ahead and sit here and, you know, be like, oh, I'm going to be okay with this, or oh, I'm, you're looking for that relationship, so you're trying to find it, whereas for women, when you're not, or when you're finally fine after you found yourself, or when you're still trying to find yourself and you're not looking for a relationship, that's what.
Speaker 2That's when you typically get what you want and that's with anything even think about when you're sitting here and you're like, oh, I really think I like this one. And then you get it and you're like, oh wait, I maybe I didn't like it as much as I want or I wish I would have had this one instead because you were rushing to do it, because that's what you thought you needed, or that's what you thought you wanted.
Speaker 2But in reality, you're sitting here, you're just allowing all these things to happen because you're like I want this, I want this so bad and then there's a mask of the situation like too.
Speaker 4Like that whole representative that we've fallen in love with at first.
Speaker 3Hey, speak on it, Kim. That's a big deal.
Relationship Communication and Expectations
Speaker 4That representative be a motherfucker, because that motherfucker is the bomb right there. Listen, I'm going to take you out. Every day. We're going to do this. This is where our life's going to be. Every day, I'm there.
Speaker 2Women are like I'm going to come, I'm day, I'm there, I'm there too, though women are like I'm gonna come, oh, I'm gonna go to his house, I'm gonna clean his house right now and he's gonna want this massage. And then, and then he was like okay, let's move in. Yeah, you want me to cook and do this every day right?
Speaker 6isn't that what you were doing to get me? Yeah, is that how you got me? And now? Now you don't want everything, the effort that we put where to get ready to go out and we look good, and then we're together and like or you're or women, or women and men they're like oh, I like having you know.
Speaker 2Oh, I'm gonna like women especially will be like oh, I I love sucking dick all the time I love fucking all the time and then the second, that that person's like oh yeah, you, you sit here and you do it over and over again, you know when you first meet them. And then, all of a sudden, once you have them, you're like okay, let me, let me, just, let me just stop. I don't have to do it so much, I already got him now.
Speaker 4I mean, that's what happens with a guy. Guys do it too.
Speaker 3That's why. And then look so that something like that will happen. Then we'll go fuck another bitch, and then you like, not you per se, but you know your argument.
Speaker 2Oh, my gosh Would be like oh, why would you do that?
Speaker 3Why would you do something like that?
Speaker 2You didn't need to do that. You didn't have to sleep with someone else. You can agree?
Speaker 1no, I agree 100 the thing is is, like you know, use, use discernment, like with every day you know management.
Speaker 3Have great swipe management.
Speaker 1All right, please, guys and guys I'm about to we I'm about to give my my, my game, and we're gonna get the fuck out of here. I'll let you guys say what you guys gotta say, and we're gonna get the fuck out of here. I'll let you guys say what you guys got to say, and we don't get the fuck out of here, right? So, no matter what they said, a whole bunch of word salad and shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I love a good salad you guys, this is fun.
Speaker 1Look at the end of the fucking day. No matter what anybody says, keep on trying to be the best fucking you know when you're in that relationship or if you're not in a relationship. Never get comfortable.
Speaker 1The next nigga can always take your girl no matter how, how good of a relationship you guys are in your own borrowed time, if you get comfortable, you are on fucking borrowed time, yeah, so at the end of the day, at the end of the day, all I say is get better, do better and fucking keep building it. Hey, and it's okay to seek therapy. It's okay to talk to people not a therapist, not necessarily be fucking, um, seeing a doctor or whoever it might be, might be, might be, mr Cushing, that's my therapist Getting your shit out Get your shit out and be truthful with yourself, because a lot of people don't acknowledge their traumas and their triggers.
Speaker 1Absolutely. And I think that's where the and it's fucking in there. I'll be a therapist babe, and then you fucking get your shit all bottled and then you snap she called me a gentleman.
Speaker 3It was like the best moment of my life. She was like people don't understand you, gio, you're a gentleman.
Speaker 1She's like I've been around you. I know Just whatever you said, maybe similar, maybe.
Speaker 3I don't know, About me.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're a funny guy. She cussed me out and we're best friends after that.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Shout out to him. Um, yeah, I say that to say man, look any women, I don't, I don't have it. What do women? Give them some advice I agree.
Speaker 2Don't get comfortable either. At the end of the day, like come, I feel like comfortability is a luxury and you don't have it. Yeah, I don't care how luxurious your life is, whatever, you do not have comfortability. Yeah, you it's, it's made up, it's in your head. Figure it out, do that, respect yourself, respect others and make sure you get what you want out of it. If you, if it's something that you want, if you want to be a hoe, be a hoe.
Speaker 2Tell him, though, just don't lie if you want if you want a relationship, tell him at the beginning. Tell him at the beginning. Don't sit here and sit around with someone who clearly doesn't want the relationship just because you think he's going to change for you, because he's probably not.
Navigating Relationship Dynamics and Advice
Speaker 4He might change for someone else, but it's probably not you yeah, try to have it all out on the table, you know. So you know what you're dealing with on both ends. So that's what I would say for the men and the women make sure that he's telling. You know when he lying, you know, you know when she lying.
Speaker 1Let's keep it real nigga, why are you always lying? I lying, I mean for real Well.
Speaker 5I'm not going to put it all on the table, though, at first.
Speaker 4No, not at first nah.
Speaker 5Like I said, know what you come with. I know what I come with. Like the cooking reference, I'm not going to come to your house and just immediately start cooking. We're in a talking stage. That's valid, though we have to be really locked in then I'll show you hey look, I can do this.
Speaker 4Okay, oh look, I can do this. She's keeping that shit in the holster right there. She's keeping that shit in the holster.
Speaker 1Okay, I'm gonna leave it for another time. Advice that you'll get ladies.
Speaker 6I, um, I will say love yourself first. It's like working yourself. When you love something, you take care of them forever, no matter how good you can feel, you're always going to put the effort to be better and not just like be better in a selfish way. Be better for your partner, your family, your friends, like everything, but always love yourself first. You're first, and after that then you can.
Speaker 3You'll be good with everyone all right, yeah, man, g6, man, fuck all this kumbaya shit. Everybody's keep capping, keep lying. You know, lie responsibly, everybody's full of shit. You know, I'm saying and uh yeah, just keep doing what the fuck you're doing, because, at the end of the day, we're all on God's time and if you believe in destiny, it was going to happen anyway. Signing out you already know Elevated talks. You know G6. Holler at me, holler at me and holler at me. Money Train Management.
Speaker 1That will get you beaten off for the rest of your life. You're going to have a Fifi sack and a fucking OnlyFans. Come on. Listen you need me to run it, just send me a message. You got any game.
Speaker 3Oh, that was game. Oh, that was my moment to get game. Oh, hold on.
Speaker 2Keep lying Responsibly.
Speaker 3Position is nonsense of the law. Possession is nonsense of the game. You feel me Holler at me.
Speaker 2Wrap it up, especially in these day and age. Wrap it up.
Speaker 5Wrap it up.
Speaker 2Also go buy some Plan B's now.
Speaker 4Right.
Speaker 5Wrap it up.
Speaker 1You might not have them for a while. Hey, yeah, look, man, look, wrap it up, unless you take scenes.
Speaker 3I'll tell y'all about that later.
Speaker 1Shout out your socials, and we're going to end it at that.
Speaker 2It was great being here with you, guys. You guys can follow me on basically any platform, at Is it Charlize? And coming soon, coming soon, the podcast will be coming soon.
Speaker 1Nice Not yet. It's in the works and when it does it will be.
Speaker 2Charlize.
Speaker 1We'll figure it out, we'll come on here All out, see how that happens.
Speaker 4We'll come on here right. All right, y'all love here. I'm kimmy kim kim on ig. I really keep it real moderately. I got a quiet community. I really just be chilling, so see me on there if I'm doing some other things.
Speaker 1What did they say on baby boy?
Speaker 4which one what part?
Speaker 1how much was it?
Speaker 4so, speaking of that, where can we catch you? Oh yeah, you might see me on a more.
Speaker 3So, speaking of that, where can we catch you, oh?
Speaker 4yeah, you might see me on more of that. On that talk with Flea, you might see me on there again.
Speaker 3Featuring hosted by Featured by Cam Cam Aron.
Speaker 4Shout out to Cam, shout out to Cam man, it's real hard to get her to tell people she's doing great things. She's Louise, for sure. She needs to push.
Speaker 3That it's a little hard to get her to tell people she's doing great things.
Speaker 4She's Louise. She needs to push. That's why I said it's the quiet community over here.
Speaker 3No, it's okay If she's on the fence. I'm just going to push her ass to fuck off.
Speaker 4He won't push me over the ledge.
Speaker 1She's that, angela Bassett.
Speaker 3Right, she's burning everything, right.
Speaker 4I already going down.
Speaker 6Well, I kind of like the incognito. I don't have too many social media. My is IG and I'm Marilyn Mesa. You need to sign my request because I'm picky and like for me.
Speaker 5You can catch me on Instagram at me and Finesse. Finesse spelled F-Y-N-E-S-S, and if you're in California, I I do sell chocolate-covered strawberries and my restaurant is called Berry Delicious.
Speaker 3You got a restaurant, congratulations I love a chocolate-covered strawberry.
Speaker 5Only chocolate-covered strawberries.
Speaker 1White chocolate milk chocolate or both.
Speaker 2I'll be calling you.
Speaker 1For Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3Are you going to ship it? You got a wife or girlfriend or something.
Speaker 1Are you going to ship it?
Speaker 3Yes, are you going?
Speaker 1to ship it Well indeed.
Speaker 5I don't think I actually said my piece of game. My piece of game would be Go ahead Speak into the microphone. Don't never keep up. Do your own speed. That's right If you want to spin your lane speaking to the microphone.
Speaker 4Don't never keep up. Do your own speed. That's okay like that if you want to stay in your lane yeah, she did that and dropped the mic okay, you know what's going on, guys.
Networking and Brand Management
Speaker 3Uh, capital g6. Uh, it was a pleasure after four years being on this platform with my uh, you know good, uh, good brother, good brother, terrence and stuff like that. But not all jokes aside, man, you know it's definitely always great being here. Um, you know, uh, capital g6. Holla at me. You know, say, money, train management, if anybody needs any management. You know, shameless plug, leave me alone, let me do my thing. Mr demille, close up and um, you know, you know I'm doing a lot of great things. You know brand management. You know, working with charlize over here. She's like. You know, she has a podcast coming soon. We have kim over here as well. Kim was also on something with Baby Court and this guy right here, he was on it as well. You know I'm booking everybody. He just won't never talk about stuff that.
Speaker 1I do for him.
Speaker 3We can't talk about such things, but a shout out to everybody that's making things happen. I got a situation with Coca-Cola. Hopefully we can do a situation with maybe Coca-Cola and elevated talks. Maybe one shouts out to Sneak, apparel, you know what I'm saying. That's always you know, and he introduced me to Sneak and just to see somebody that still rocks me four or five years later, based on this relationship, I am the plug, just to let you guys know, right, right, right, but I'm the outlet. But yeah, you know, definitely hope everything is great.
Speaker 1You know shouts out to my son, Iris, and won the nigga. Please award. I like that one too, anyways, follow us on social media. Elevated one network Instagram, all that shit. Twitter, yeah, my bad and subscribe like comment, share a friend and share to a friend.
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